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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] xen/blkfront: don't trust the backend response data blindly
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 08:52:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbd099f3-4d62-e0f6-1bad-6d317428051e@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f606c27-173a-542d-406d-196dae784edd@suse.com>

On 08.07.2021 08:40, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 08.07.21 08:37, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 08.07.2021 07:47, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 17.05.21 17:33, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 17.05.2021 17:22, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>> On 17.05.21 17:12, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 17.05.2021 16:23, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17.05.21 16:11, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 13.05.2021 12:02, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>>>>> @@ -1574,10 +1580,16 @@ static irqreturn_t blkif_interrupt(int irq, void *dev_id)
>>>>>>>>>      	spin_lock_irqsave(&rinfo->ring_lock, flags);
>>>>>>>>>       again:
>>>>>>>>>      	rp = rinfo->ring.sring->rsp_prod;
>>>>>>>>> +	if (RING_RESPONSE_PROD_OVERFLOW(&rinfo->ring, rp)) {
>>>>>>>>> +		pr_alert("%s: illegal number of responses %u\n",
>>>>>>>>> +			 info->gd->disk_name, rp - rinfo->ring.rsp_cons);
>>>>>>>>> +		goto err;
>>>>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>>>>>      	rmb(); /* Ensure we see queued responses up to 'rp'. */
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you want to insert after the barrier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why? The relevant variable which is checked is "rp". The result of the
>>>>>>> check is in no way depending on the responses themselves. And any change
>>>>>>> of rsp_cons is protected by ring_lock, so there is no possibility of
>>>>>>> reading an old value here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this is a standard double read situation: You might check a value
>>>>>> and then (via a separate read) use a different one past the barrier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and no.
>>>>>
>>>>> rsp_cons should never be written by the other side, and additionally
>>>>> it would be read multiple times anyway.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm talking about rsp_prod, as that's what rp gets loaded from.
>>>
>>> Oh, now I get your problem.
>>>
>>> But shouldn't that better be solved by using READ_ONCE() for reading rp
>>> instead?
>>
>> Not sure - the rmb() is needed anyway aiui, and hence you could as well
>> move your code addition.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> My question was rather: does the rmb() really eliminate the possibility
> of a double read introduced by the compiler? If yes, moving the code is
> the correct solution.

It doesn't eliminate the possibility of a double read, but (leaving
aside split accesses) that's not what you care about here. What you
need is a single stable value to operate on. No matter how many
(non-split) reads the compiler may issue to fill "rp", the final
read's value will be used in the subsequent calculation. Or at
least that's been my understanding; thinking about it the compiler
might issue multiple reads into distinct registers ahead of the
barrier, and use different registers for different subsequent
operations. While this would look like intentionally inefficient
code generation to me, you may indeed want to play safe and use
ACCESS_ONCE() _and_ the barrier. I guess there are more places then
which would want similar treatment, and it's not a problem that
this change introduces ...

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-08  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 10:02 [PATCH 0/8] xen: harden frontends against malicious backends Juergen Gross
2021-05-13 10:02 ` [PATCH 2/8] xen/blkfront: read response from backend only once Juergen Gross
2021-05-17 13:50   ` Jan Beulich
2021-05-13 10:02 ` [PATCH 3/8] xen/blkfront: don't take local copy of a request from the ring page Juergen Gross
2021-05-17 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2021-05-17 14:11     ` Juergen Gross
2021-05-13 10:02 ` [PATCH 4/8] xen/blkfront: don't trust the backend response data blindly Juergen Gross
2021-05-17 14:11   ` Jan Beulich
2021-05-17 14:23     ` Juergen Gross
2021-05-17 15:12       ` Jan Beulich
2021-05-17 15:22         ` Juergen Gross
2021-05-17 15:33           ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-08  5:47             ` Juergen Gross
2021-07-08  6:37               ` Jan Beulich
2021-07-08  6:40                 ` Juergen Gross
2021-07-08  6:52                   ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-07-08  6:56                     ` Juergen Gross
2021-05-21 10:43 ` [PATCH 0/8] xen: harden frontends against malicious backends Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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