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From: Alain Michaud <>
To: Marcel Holtmann <>
Cc: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <>,
	BlueZ <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Bluetooth: Fix assuming EIR flags can result in SSP authentication
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 10:30:25 -0400
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In-Reply-To: <>

Hi Luiz,

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:17 AM Marcel Holtmann <> wrote:
> Hi Alain,
> > Starting with the 2.1 specification, it is my interpretation that it
> > is not valid to support EIR but not SSP.  I understand that SSP may be
> > disabled from BlueZ's point of view, but this doesn't seem to be a
> > legitimate/qualifiable configuration.  Should we instead fail the
> > legacy pairing if EIR was received as an invalid condition?
> I know that using EIR requires to also use SSP. However this is just a precaution in case the other device is an attacked and tries to trick us.
> You might get an inquiry result and not extended inquiry result, but you are still talking to a SSP device. This has to do with the fact that the reception of EIR is not guaranteed. In case of radio interference you might miss one and only get an ordinary inquiry result.
> If we indeed received an EIR and then get legacy pairing request, we could try to reject the pairing. However keep in mind that our inquiry cache is time limited and we through outdated information away. This might cause some race condition. So I rather read the remote host features to ensure we know the actual host features of the remote device.

You are correct, the EIR response is not a guaranteed thing.  For this
reason, the host should try to resolve the name of the device before
initiating bonding where a Remote Host Supported Feature Notification
Event is generated to signal the remote side's support of SSP.  As you
allude to, a remote spoofing a legitimate SSP device may always just
jam and downgrade to not SSP, but if you have any signals that SSP is
supported by the device, it may be a good defensive posture.
Receiving an EIR response or a Remote Host Supported Feature Event
with the SSP bit set is a good indication that the device supports SSP
and you should expect SSP to take place.  Again, it is not a valid
configuration to have EIR enabled but not SSP per my interpretation of
the 2.1 specification.

> Regards
> Marcel

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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-19 20:25 [PATCH 1/4] Bluetooth: Disconnect if E0 is used for Level 4 Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-19 20:25 ` [PATCH 2/4] Bluetooth: Fix assuming EIR flags can result in SSP authentication Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-20 14:34   ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-26 13:53     ` Alain Michaud
2020-05-26 14:17       ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-26 14:30         ` Alain Michaud [this message]
2020-05-28  8:22           ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-28 13:17             ` Alain Michaud
2020-05-28 16:53               ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-28 17:16                 ` Alain Michaud
2020-06-03 18:02                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-19 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/4] Bluetooth: Fix bogus check for re-auth no supported with non-ssp Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-20 14:25   ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-20 16:12     ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-19 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/4] Bluetooth: Consolidate encryption handling in hci_encrypt_cfm Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2020-05-20 14:31   ` Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-20 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] Bluetooth: Disconnect if E0 is used for Level 4 Marcel Holtmann
2020-05-20 16:00   ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz

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