From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02505C4338F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8F661252 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235983AbhG0JFm (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jul 2021 05:05:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-out2.suse.de ([195.135.220.29]:50332 "EHLO smtp-out2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235923AbhG0JFl (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Jul 2021 05:05:41 -0400 Received: from relay2.suse.de (relay2.suse.de [149.44.160.134]) by smtp-out2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9CD200E4; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:05:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_rsa; t=1627376741; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to: cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=AK6Z1ESnln5hAltD/AQpRJ6IclTultGtDAXI2fWJ520=; b=v/TZSM3pgACA7XYxKl7K5Y38mEjHi6nmOT7tH+QjC0QiYjkmystgLVXof1j8XWAtR3kIwC Nase/Pf2lXVm1NBUmntRomBhhlR5hzaPCqbqcSA+W4rRIMHQtIHNmwXKELdkbY+YegL3xJ R/G5tvDemzv6WtcyHVqvhSpLelUWTXc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1627376741; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to: cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=AK6Z1ESnln5hAltD/AQpRJ6IclTultGtDAXI2fWJ520=; b=CqGmfGVCeI9iTZLt0etb6oyN8MyNeUo7GlwWWD59EjsURqjjBkrrlCQZ/Bq4MQ0qIY2PNC W45K/vPhknmz0UAw== Received: from ds.suse.cz (ds.suse.cz [10.100.12.205]) by relay2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED14A3B84; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds.suse.cz (Postfix, from userid 10065) id 0BE68DA8CC; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:02:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:02:56 +0200 From: David Sterba To: Chris Murphy Cc: Zygo Blaxell , David Sterba , Qu Wenruo , Jorge Bastos , Btrfs BTRFS Subject: Re: Maybe we want to maintain a bad driver list? (Was 'Re: "bad tree block start, want 419774464 have 0" after a clean shutdown, could it be a disk firmware issue?') Message-ID: <20210727090256.GL5047@twin.jikos.cz> Reply-To: dsterba@suse.cz Mail-Followup-To: dsterba@suse.cz, Chris Murphy , Zygo Blaxell , Qu Wenruo , Jorge Bastos , Btrfs BTRFS References: <20210721174433.GO19710@twin.jikos.cz> <8b830dc8-11d4-9b21-abe4-5f44e6baa013@gmx.com> <20210722135455.GU19710@twin.jikos.cz> <20210724231527.GF10170@hungrycats.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1-rc1 (2014-03-12) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 09:34:23PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 5:16 PM Zygo Blaxell > wrote: > > > > SSDs are a different story: there are so many models, firmware revisions > > are far more diverse, and vendors are still rapidly updating their > > designs, so we never see exactly the same firmware in any two incident > > reports. A firmware list would be obsolete in days. There is nothing > > in SSD firmware like the decade-long stability there is in HDD firmware. > > It might still be worth having reports act as a counter. 0-3 might be > "not enough info", 4-7 might be "suspicious", 8+ might be "consider > yourself warned". > > But the scale could be a problem due to the small sample size. That's a good idea, I've started something on https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware_bugs using the mentioned WD and firmware as first exapmle.