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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 14:57:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <538CF346.2070504@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7175692.dpgYFMbTaP@wuerfel>

On 06/02/2014 12:55 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> The bit that is really going to hurt is every single ioctl that uses a
>> timespec.
>>
>> Honestly, though, I really don't understand the point with "struct
>> inode_time".  It seems like the zeroeth-order thing is to change the
>> kernel internal version of struct timespec to have a 64-bit time... it
>> isn't just about inodes.  We then should be explicit about the external
>> uses of time, and use accessors.
> 
> I picked these because they are fairly isolated from all other uses,
> in particular since inode times are the only things where we really
> care about times in the distant past or future (decades away as opposed
> to things that happened between boot and shutdown).
> 

If nothing else, I would expect to be able to set the system time to
weird values for testing.  So I'm not so sure I agree with that...

> For other kernel-internal uses, we may be better off migrating to
> a completely different representation, such as nanoseconds since
> boot or the architecture specific ktime_t, but this is really something
> to decide for each subsystem.

Having a bunch of different time representations in the kernel seems
like a real headache...

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-02 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-30 20:01 [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 20:01 ` [RFC 12/32] btrfs: convert to struct inode_time Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:30 ` [RFC 00/32] making inode time stamps y2038 ready Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-06-03 12:21   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 14:51 ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-31 15:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-31 18:22     ` Richard Cochran
2014-05-31 19:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-01  4:46         ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-01  4:44     ` Richard Cochran
2014-06-02 13:52 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-02 19:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 19:26     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-02 19:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:57         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-06-03 14:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 14:33             ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-03 14:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-03 21:38             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-04 15:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 17:30                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-04 19:24                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-05  0:10                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10  9:54                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 21:02     ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-04 15:05       ` Arnd Bergmann

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