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Tue, 13 Aug 2019 06:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] btrfs: Add global_reserve_size mount option To: Vladimir Panteleev Cc: Btrfs BTRFS References: <20190810124101.15440-1-git@thecybershadow.net> <20190810124101.15440-2-git@thecybershadow.net> From: Nikolay Borisov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=nborisov@suse.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFiKBz4BEADNHZmqwhuN6EAzXj9SpPpH/nSSP8YgfwoOqwrP+JR4pIqRK0AWWeWCSwmZ T7g+RbfPFlmQp+EwFWOtABXlKC54zgSf+uulGwx5JAUFVUIRBmnHOYi/lUiE0yhpnb1KCA7f u/W+DkwGerXqhhe9TvQoGwgCKNfzFPZoM+gZrm+kWv03QLUCr210n4cwaCPJ0Nr9Z3c582xc bCUVbsjt7BN0CFa2BByulrx5xD9sDAYIqfLCcZetAqsTRGxM7LD0kh5WlKzOeAXj5r8DOrU2 GdZS33uKZI/kZJZVytSmZpswDsKhnGzRN1BANGP8sC+WD4eRXajOmNh2HL4P+meO1TlM3GLl EQd2shHFY0qjEo7wxKZI1RyZZ5AgJnSmehrPCyuIyVY210CbMaIKHUIsTqRgY5GaNME24w7h TyyVCy2qAM8fLJ4Vw5bycM/u5xfWm7gyTb9V1TkZ3o1MTrEsrcqFiRrBY94Rs0oQkZvunqia c+NprYSaOG1Cta14o94eMH271Kka/reEwSZkC7T+o9hZ4zi2CcLcY0DXj0qdId7vUKSJjEep c++s8ncFekh1MPhkOgNj8pk17OAESanmDwksmzh1j12lgA5lTFPrJeRNu6/isC2zyZhTwMWs k3LkcTa8ZXxh0RfWAqgx/ogKPk4ZxOXQEZetkEyTFghbRH2BIwARAQABtCNOaWtvbGF5IEJv cmlzb3YgPG5ib3Jpc292QHN1c2UuY29tPokCOAQTAQIAIgUCWIo48QIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgC CQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQcb6CRuU/KFc0eg/9GLD3wTQz9iZHMFbjiqTCitD7B6dTLV1C ddZVlC8Hm/TophPts1bWZORAmYIihHHI1EIF19+bfIr46pvfTu0yFrJDLOADMDH+Ufzsfy2v HSqqWV/nOSWGXzh8bgg/ncLwrIdEwBQBN9SDS6aqsglagvwFD91UCg/TshLlRxD5BOnuzfzI Leyx2c6YmH7Oa1R4MX9Jo79SaKwdHt2yRN3SochVtxCyafDlZsE/efp21pMiaK1HoCOZTBp5 VzrIP85GATh18pN7YR9CuPxxN0V6IzT7IlhS4Jgj0NXh6vi1DlmKspr+FOevu4RVXqqcNTSS E2rycB2v6cttH21UUdu/0FtMBKh+rv8+yD49FxMYnTi1jwVzr208vDdRU2v7Ij/TxYt/v4O8 V+jNRKy5Fevca/1xroQBICXsNoFLr10X5IjmhAhqIH8Atpz/89ItS3+HWuE4BHB6RRLM0gy8 T7rN6ja+KegOGikp/VTwBlszhvfLhyoyjXI44Tf3oLSFM+8+qG3B7MNBHOt60CQlMkq0fGXd mm4xENl/SSeHsiomdveeq7cNGpHi6i6ntZK33XJLwvyf00PD7tip/GUj0Dic/ZUsoPSTF/mG EpuQiUZs8X2xjK/AS/l3wa4Kz2tlcOKSKpIpna7V1+CMNkNzaCOlbv7QwprAerKYywPCoOSC 7P25Ag0EWIoHPgEQAMiUqvRBZNvPvki34O/dcTodvLSyOmK/MMBDrzN8Cnk302XfnGlW/YAQ csMWISKKSpStc6tmD+2Y0z9WjyRqFr3EGfH1RXSv9Z1vmfPzU42jsdZn667UxrRcVQXUgoKg QYx055Q2FdUeaZSaivoIBD9WtJq/66UPXRRr4H/+Y5FaUZx+gWNGmBT6a0S/GQnHb9g3nonD jmDKGw+YO4P6aEMxyy3k9PstaoiyBXnzQASzdOi39BgWQuZfIQjN0aW+Dm8kOAfT5i/yk59h VV6v3NLHBjHVw9kHli3jwvsizIX9X2W8tb1SefaVxqvqO1132AO8V9CbE1DcVT8fzICvGi42 FoV/k0QOGwq+LmLf0t04Q0csEl+h69ZcqeBSQcIMm/Ir+NorfCr6HjrB6lW7giBkQl6hhomn l1mtDP6MTdbyYzEiBFcwQD4terc7S/8ELRRybWQHQp7sxQM/Lnuhs77MgY/e6c5AVWnMKd/z MKm4ru7A8+8gdHeydrRQSWDaVbfy3Hup0Ia76J9FaolnjB8YLUOJPdhI2vbvNCQ2ipxw3Y3c KhVIpGYqwdvFIiz0Fej7wnJICIrpJs/+XLQHyqcmERn3s/iWwBpeogrx2Lf8AGezqnv9woq7 OSoWlwXDJiUdaqPEB/HmGfqoRRN20jx+OOvuaBMPAPb+aKJyle8zABEBAAGJAh8EGAECAAkF AliKBz4CGwwACgkQcb6CRuU/KFdacg/+M3V3Ti9JYZEiIyVhqs+yHb6NMI1R0kkAmzsGQ1jU zSQUz9AVMR6T7v2fIETTT/f5Oout0+Hi9cY8uLpk8CWno9V9eR/B7Ifs2pAA8lh2nW43FFwp IDiSuDbH6oTLmiGCB206IvSuaQCp1fed8U6yuqGFcnf0ZpJm/sILG2ECdFK9RYnMIaeqlNQm iZicBY2lmlYFBEaMXHoy+K7nbOuizPWdUKoKHq+tmZ3iA+qL5s6Qlm4trH28/fPpFuOmgP8P K+7LpYLNSl1oQUr+WlqilPAuLcCo5Vdl7M7VFLMq4xxY/dY99aZx0ZJQYFx0w/6UkbDdFLzN upT7NIN68lZRucImffiWyN7CjH23X3Tni8bS9ubo7OON68NbPz1YIaYaHmnVQCjDyDXkQoKC R82Vf9mf5slj0Vlpf+/Wpsv/TH8X32ajva37oEQTkWNMsDxyw3aPSps6MaMafcN7k60y2Wk/ TCiLsRHFfMHFY6/lq/c0ZdOsGjgpIK0G0z6et9YU6MaPuKwNY4kBdjPNBwHreucrQVUdqRRm RcxmGC6ohvpqVGfhT48ZPZKZEWM+tZky0mO7bhZYxMXyVjBn4EoNTsXy1et9Y1dU3HVJ8fod 5UqrNrzIQFbdeM0/JqSLrtlTcXKJ7cYFa9ZM2AP7UIN9n1UWxq+OPY9YMOewVfYtL8M= Message-ID: <7b0c575d-53f3-5d62-da73-d899ed3cc5c1@suse.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:40:50 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On 12.08.19 г. 17:36 ч., Vladimir Panteleev wrote: > Hi Nikolay, > > Thank you for looking at my patch! > > You are completely correct in that this pampers over a bug I do not > understand. And, I would very much like to understand and fix the > underlying bug instead of settling for a workaround. > > Unfortunately, after three days of looking at BTRFS code (and getting > to where I am now), I have realized that, as a developer with no > experience in filesystems or kernel development, it would take me a > lot more, possibly several weeks, to reach a level of understanding of > BTRFS to the point where I could contribute a meaningful fix. This is > not something I would be opposed to, as I have the time and I've > personally invested into BTRFS, but it certainly would be a lot easier > if I could at least get occasional confirmation that my findings and > understanding so far are correct and that I am on the right track. > Unfortunately the people in a position to do this seem to be too busy > with far more important issues than helping debug my particular edge > case, and the previous thread has not received any replies since my > last few posts there, so this patch is the least I could contribute so > far. > > FWIW #1: My current best guess at why the problem occurs, using my > current level of understanding of BTRFS, is that the filesystem in > question (16TB of historical snapshots) has so many subvolumes and > fragmentation that balance or device delete operations allocate so > much metadata space while processing the chunk (by allocating new > blocks for splitting filled metadata tree nodes) that the global > reserve is overrun. Corrections or advice on how to verify this theory > would be appreciated! (Or perhaps I should just use my patch to fix my > filesystem and move on with my life. Would be good to know when I can > wipe the disks containing the test case FS which reproduces the bug > and use them for something else.) The thing is global rsv should be a last resort allocation pool. E.g. if you have 16tb of snapshots but also has plenty of metadata space then you shouldn't be hitting global rsv. Have you tried with a recent kernel that includes the patches from the following series: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-btrfs/list/?series=17715 > > FWIW #2: I noticed that Josef Bacik proposed a change back in 2013 to > increase the global reserve size to 1G. The comments on the patch was > the reason I proposed to make it configurable rather than raising the > size again: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2517071/ And that change hasn't really landed because it caused other problems. Current global rsv code is also capped at 512mb > > Thanks! >