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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: dsterba@suse.cz, Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: volumes: Allocate degraded chunks if rw devices can't fullfil a chunk
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:36:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c0a2816-1a7d-7d75-f591-c8712a85efd5@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191127192329.GA2734@twin.jikos.cz>


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On 2019/11/28 上午3:23, David Sterba wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 06:41:49PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>> On 2019/11/19 下午6:05, Anand Jain wrote:
>>> On 11/7/19 2:27 PM, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>> [PROBLEM]
>>>> Btrfs degraded mount will fallback to SINGLE profile if there are not
>>>> enough devices:
>>>
>>>  Its better to keep it like this for now until there is a fix for the
>>>  write hole. Otherwise hitting the write hole bug in case of degraded
>>>  raid1 will be more prevalent.
>>
>> Write hole should be a problem for RAID5/6, not the degraded chunk
>> feature itself.
>>
>> Furthermore, this design will try to avoid allocating chunks using
>> missing devices.
>> So even for 3 devices RAID5, new chunks will be allocated by using
>> existing devices (2 devices RAID5), so no new write hole is introduced.
> 
> That this would allow a 2 device raid5 (from expected 3) is similar to
> the reduced chunks, but now hidden because we don't have a detailed
> report for stripes on devices. And rebalance would be needed to make
> sure that's the filesystem is again 3 devices (and 1 device lost
> tolerant).
> 
> This is different to the 1 device missing for raid1, where scrub can
> fix that (expected), but the balance is IMHO not.
> 
> I'd suggest to allow allocation from missing devices only from the
> profiles with redundancy. For now.

But RAID5 itself supports 2 devices, right?
And even 2 devices RAID5 can still tolerant 1 missing device.

The tolerance hasn't changed in that case, just unbalanced disk usage then.

Thanks,
Qu


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07  6:27 [PATCH 0/3] btrfs: More intelligent degraded chunk allocator Qu Wenruo
2019-11-07  6:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] btrfs: volumes: Refactor device holes gathering into a separate function Qu Wenruo
2019-11-07  9:20   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-11-07  9:33     ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-07  9:45       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-11-07  6:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] btrfs: volumes: Add btrfs_fs_devices::missing_list to collect missing devices Qu Wenruo
2019-11-07  9:31   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-11-19 10:03   ` Anand Jain
2019-11-19 10:29     ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-27 19:36       ` David Sterba
2019-11-07  6:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: volumes: Allocate degraded chunks if rw devices can't fullfil a chunk Qu Wenruo
2019-11-19 10:05   ` Anand Jain
2019-11-19 10:41     ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-27 19:23       ` David Sterba
2019-11-27 23:36         ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2019-11-28 11:24           ` David Sterba
2019-11-28 12:29             ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-28 12:30             ` Qu WenRuo
2019-11-28 12:39               ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-18 20:18 ` [PATCH 0/3] btrfs: More intelligent degraded chunk allocator David Sterba
2019-11-18 23:32   ` Qu Wenruo
2019-11-19  5:18     ` Alberto Bursi
2019-11-27 19:26       ` David Sterba
2019-12-02  3:22     ` Zygo Blaxell
2019-12-02  4:41       ` Qu Wenruo
2019-12-02 19:27         ` Zygo Blaxell

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