From: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
To: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: reproducible builds with btrfs seed feature
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:52:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJCQCtRkqCu60M8_yVdqABidC1H+XB6iM-wVQo9kfnrwMxAHEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7dd8412-15e3-f151-986c-8f34decbb532@gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn
<ahferroin7@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-10-13 18:28, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> The end result is creating two Btrfs volumes would yield image files
>> with matching hashes.
>
> So in other words, you care about matching the block layout _exactly_.
Only because that's the easiest way to verify reproducibility without
any ambiguity.
If someone's compromised a build system such that everyone is getting
the malicious payload, but they can hide it behind a subvolume or
reflink that's not used by default, could someone plausibly cause
selective use of their malicious payload? I dunno I leave that for
more crafty people. But even if it's a tiny bit of ambiguity, it's
non-zero. Hashing a file that contains the entire file system is
unambiguous.
I think populating the image with --rootdir at mkfs time should be
pretty deterministic. One stream in and out. No generations, no
snapshot, no delayed allocation. It'd be quite similar to mksquashfs.
I guess I'd have to try it a few times, and see if really the only
differences are uuids and times, and not allocation related things.
--
Chris Murphy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-15 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-13 22:28 reproducible builds with btrfs seed feature Chris Murphy
2018-10-13 23:05 ` Chris Murphy
2018-10-14 12:20 ` Cerem Cem ASLAN
2018-10-14 18:10 ` Chris Murphy
2018-10-14 19:09 ` Cerem Cem ASLAN
2018-10-14 23:38 ` Chris Murphy
2018-10-15 12:29 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-10-15 19:52 ` Chris Murphy [this message]
2018-10-16 8:13 ` Anand Jain
2018-10-16 19:49 ` Chris Murphy
2018-10-17 4:08 ` Anand Jain
2018-10-18 18:02 ` Chris Murphy
2018-10-19 0:47 ` Anand Jain
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