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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RERESEND v9 0/9] fs: interface for directly reading/writing compressed data
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 17:07:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKMFK3GtcWaRz4DA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YKL7W7QO7Wis2n8a@relinquished.localdomain>

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 04:25:15PM -0700, Omar Sandoval wrote:
> 
> Okay, I think we're in agreement: RWF_ENCODED for the data and separate
> ioctls for the encryption context. Since the fscrypt policy struct
> includes all of the relevant information, RWF_ENCODED can probably just
> have a single ENCODED_IOV_ENCRYPTION_FSCRYPT encryption type.
> RWF_ENCODED can express data which is both compressed and encrypted, so
> that should be fine as well.
> 
> The only other missing piece that I see (other than filesystem support)
> is an FS_IOC_SET_ENCRYPTION_NONCE ioctl. Would such an interface be
> reasonable?

In theory, it will be possible to add FS_IOC_SET_ENCRYPTION_NONCE.  The
implementation might be tricky.  It would have to take the inode lock, verify
that the file is empty, replace the encryption xattr, and re-derive and replace
the file's encryption key.  Replacing the key should be safe because the file is
empty, but it's hard to be sure -- and what about directories?  Another concern
is that userspace could misuse this ioctl and somehow end up reusing nonces,
which would be bad; probably this should be a CAP_SYS_ADMIN thing only.

A larger question is whether the goal is to support users backing up and
restoring encrypted files without their encryption key being available -- in
which case things would become *much* harder.  First because of the filenames
encryption, and second because we currently don't allow opening files without
their encryption key.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17 18:35 [PATCH RERESEND v9 0/9] fs: interface for directly reading/writing compressed data Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 1/9] iov_iter: add copy_struct_from_iter() Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 2/9] fs: add O_ALLOW_ENCODED open flag Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 3/9] fs: add RWF_ENCODED for reading/writing compressed data Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 4/9] btrfs: don't advance offset for compressed bios in btrfs_csum_one_bio() Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 5/9] btrfs: add ram_bytes and offset to btrfs_ordered_extent Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 6/9] btrfs: support different disk extent size for delalloc Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 7/9] btrfs: optionally extend i_size in cow_file_range_inline() Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 8/9] btrfs: implement RWF_ENCODED reads Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 18:35 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 9/9] btrfs: implement RWF_ENCODED writes Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 21:32 ` [PATCH RERESEND v9 0/9] fs: interface for directly reading/writing compressed data Linus Torvalds
2021-05-17 22:27   ` Omar Sandoval
2021-05-17 22:48     ` Eric Biggers
2021-05-17 23:25       ` Omar Sandoval
2021-05-18  0:07         ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2021-05-18  2:53         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-05-18  8:38           ` Omar Sandoval
2021-05-18 16:21             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-06-07 19:27   ` Omar Sandoval

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