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From: "André Malm" <admin@sheepa.org>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Btrfs send with parent different size depending on source of files.
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:05:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2b8711b-1d6e-0ef4-ab53-d266a883d40c@sheepa.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtQzGCvn3DjPQUndRv=MmhVGzz5Nr=JL7p8kJim9ABmN3g@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, I will indeed test the setup thoroughly. I have considered running 
a distributed filesystem such as Ceph but my concern is that it will be 
way to slow as disk IO speed is important. Anyways, thank you for your help!

On 2019-02-19 04:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:28 PM André Malm <admin@sheepa.org> wrote:
>> Rsync is probably i bad idea yes. I could btrfs send -p the changed
>> "new" master subvolume and then delete the old master subvolume and then
>> reference the new master subvolume when transferring it later on i guess?
> I'm not sure how your application reacts to snapshots or reflinks, or
> how it updates its files. All of that needs to be tested to see what
> the incremental send size is, and if the resulting received snapshot
> contains files with the integrity your application expects, and so on.
>
>> I'll explain the problem I'm trying to solve abit better;
>>
>> Say i have a program that will run in multiple instances. The program
>> requires a dataset of large files to run (say 20GB). The dataset will be
>> updated over time, i.e parts of them changes. These changes should only
>> apply to new instances for the program. The program will also generate
>> new data (both new files and also changing data in the the shared
>> dataset) that is unique to the instance of the child subvolume. Finally
>> I need to transfer the program together with its generated data to
>> another remote machine to continue it's processing there. What i want to
>> achieve is avoid having to transfer the entire dataset when only small
>> parts of it is changed by the program. I also want to avoid having to
>> duplicate copies of the data on the remote machine.
> Yep. Based on this description though, the only time I grok using
> 'btrfs send -p master.snap child.snap | btrfs receive /destination/'
> is for the initial transfer of child. Master must be already fully
> replicated. Now you can snapshot master and child on separate
> schedules to account for their different use case, and send their
> increments independent of each other. Or in fact maybe you'll realize
> you do have a use case for clone.
>
> Have you looked at GlusterFS or Ceph for this use case? I kinda wonder
> if there's any simplification to just having a clustered file system
> make all of the send/receive stuff go away, and you can ensure your
> data is replicated pretty much immediately, and is always available
> for all computers. *shrug* That's off topic but I'm curious if there
> are ways to simplify this for your use case.
>
>
>



      reply	other threads:[~2019-02-19 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-14 11:37 Btrfs send with parent different size depending on source of files André Malm
2019-02-14 22:37 ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-15  4:00   ` Remi Gauvin
2019-02-15 18:38     ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-15 18:56       ` Remi Gauvin
2019-02-16 20:10         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2019-02-15 17:45   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2019-02-15 19:11     ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-16 20:26       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2019-02-16 20:32         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2019-02-18 18:00         ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-15 19:29 ` Remi Gauvin
2019-02-15 19:41   ` Remi Gauvin
2019-02-16 20:08 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2019-02-17  3:11   ` Remi Gauvin
2019-02-18 13:05     ` André Malm
2019-02-18 18:06       ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-18 19:58         ` André Malm
2019-02-18 20:59           ` Graham Cobb
2019-02-18 21:22           ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-18 21:36             ` André Malm
2019-02-18 22:28               ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-18 22:58                 ` André Malm
2019-02-18 23:49                   ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-18 23:58                     ` André Malm
2019-02-19  0:16                       ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-19  0:17                         ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-19  0:28                         ` André Malm
2019-02-19  3:54                           ` Chris Murphy
2019-02-19 12:05                             ` André Malm [this message]

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