From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Vincent MAILHOL <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: Max Staudt <max@enpas.org>,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
linux-can@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:10:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43768ff7-71f8-a6c3-18f8-28609e49eedd@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZ6RqJ0iCsHT-D5VuYQ9fk42ZEjHStU1yW0RfX1zuJpk5rVtQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 18.05.22 14:03, Vincent MAILHOL wrote:
> I didn't think this would trigger such a passionate discussion!
:-D
Maybe your change was the drop that let the bucket run over ;-)
>> But e.g. the people that are running Linux instances in a cloud only
>> using vcan and vxcan would not need to carry the entire infrastructure
>> of CAN hardware support and rx-offload.
>
> Are there really some people running custom builds of the Linux kernel
> in a cloud environment? The benefit of saving a few kilobytes by not
> having to carry the entire CAN hardware infrastructure is blown away
> by the cost of having to maintain a custom build.
When looking to the current Kconfig and Makefile content in
drivers/net/can(/dev) there is also some CONFIG_CAN_LEDS which "depends
on BROKEN" and builds a leds.o from a non existing leds.c ?!?
Oh leds.c is in drivers/net/can/leds.c but not in
drivers/net/can/dev/leds.c where it could build ... ?
So what I would suggest is that we always build a can-dev.ko when a CAN
driver is needed.
Then we have different options that may be built-in:
1. netlink hw config interface
2. bitrate calculation
3. rx-offload
4. leds
E.g. having the netlink interface without bitrate calculation does not
make sense to me too.
> I perfectly follow the idea to split rx-offload. Integrators building
> some custom firmware for an embedded device might want to strip out
> any unneeded piece. But I am not convinced by this same argument when
> applied to v(x)can.
It does. I've seen CAN setups (really more than one or two!) in VMs and
container environments that are fed by Ethernet tunnels - sometimes also
in embedded devices.
> A two level split (with or without rx-offload) is what makes the most
> sense to me.
>
> Regardless, having the three level split is not harmful. And because
> there seems to be a consensus on that, I am fine to continue in this
> direction.
Thanks!
Should we remove the extra option for the bitrate calculation then?
And what about the LEDS support depending on BROKEN?
That was introduced by commit 30f3b42147ba6f ("can: mark led trigger as
broken") from Uwe as it seems there were some changes in 2018.
Best regards,
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-18 13:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-13 14:23 [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] can: move can_dropped_invalid_skb from skb.h to dev.h Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 14:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-13 15:20 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 4:20 ` kernel test robot
2022-05-14 5:16 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 11:17 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-13 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-13 17:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] can: drop tx skb if the device is " Max Staudt
2022-05-14 3:00 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] can: can_dropped_invalid_skb() and Kbuild changes Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] can: slcan: use can_dropped_invalid_skb() instead of manual check Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-16 20:40 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] can: Kconfig: change CAN_DEV into a menuconfig Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-05-15 19:17 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 1:50 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17 4:12 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 6:08 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 7:04 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-17 10:45 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 11:51 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 12:14 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 12:21 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 12:39 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 13:35 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 13:43 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 14:23 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-17 14:35 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 15:38 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-17 15:50 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-17 17:52 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 12:03 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 12:12 ` Device Drivers: (was: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c) Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 12:45 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 13:10 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2022-05-18 13:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] can: skb:: move can_dropped_invalid_skb and can_skb_headroom_valid to skb.c Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:07 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 14:33 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:36 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-05-18 14:38 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 14:55 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-05-18 15:38 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-18 15:48 ` Max Staudt
2022-05-18 16:01 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-05-14 14:16 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] can: dev: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:27 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:30 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:43 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:46 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:25 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:21 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 12:41 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:56 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:51 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:22 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 12:14 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 11:46 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 13:05 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 13:55 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 14:59 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 15:18 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:32 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 10:39 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 13:57 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-05 18:08 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] can: Kbuild: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-07 8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-07 9:27 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 16:22 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-07 22:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:40 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08 0:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-07 23:43 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08 0:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-08 0:22 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-08 1:38 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-04 16:30 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-05 17:23 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Max Staudt
2022-06-05 18:06 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-05 20:46 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-06 0:24 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-06 19:24 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 2:49 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 7:13 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07 8:49 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-07 20:12 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 20:27 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-06-07 20:51 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-07 23:59 ` Vincent MAILHOL
2022-06-08 20:10 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 " Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] can: Kconfig: rename config symbol CAN_DEV into CAN_NETLINK Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] can: Kconfig: turn menu "CAN Device Drivers" into a menuconfig using CAN_DEV Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] can: bittiming: move bittiming calculation functions to calc_bittiming.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] can: Kconfig: add CONFIG_CAN_RX_OFFLOAD Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] net: Kconfig: move the CAN device menu to the "Device Drivers" section Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] can: skb: move can_dropped_invalid_skb() and can_skb_headroom_valid() to skb.c Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 14:30 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] can: skb: drop tx skb if in listen only mode Vincent Mailhol
2022-06-10 21:38 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] can: refactoring of can-dev module and of Kbuild Oliver Hartkopp
2022-06-10 22:43 ` Max Staudt
2022-06-11 15:17 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
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