From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ED8C43334 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 16:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1352735AbiFUQkh (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:40:37 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54150 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1352404AbiFUQkX (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Jun 2022 12:40:23 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f178.google.com (mail-yb1-f178.google.com [209.85.219.178]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 776E128E17; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f178.google.com with SMTP id p69so13745093ybc.5; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YjycVBMvoHRO5e0nE2Gmr0K4FWy8+bgy2O5YSFdfj8I=; b=tQi2KhJI2It/h/98sjSclYADwmalaxbdIVKPvTrXItlc67c0m7c37RIxs9+XO5dWTn QnyS2yWqiUTNzPFv6mbQ7w6+fkDsrQu9DnBTlmUU5dCSMOSk39zkKoZq0BB0kIUQlHsC DXpyaupyw0R0fBrYOstVGRFkW11vMsSvj/HxiiacZJti9+7vWZWRXVELOzdn1uf397sf JkKnyI0bWpN7IPre53kAgjsmR5klqkp56kDZphne3VImXMz2kKri0t/vHUeC+WgeJksu 2lsuGLNl+Z8H3H3AlFEOvbUlOky2Hlou/eANYGXkxmgn8nPql6MwUrWCzLjho3h+OHFW oLMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+bQabFSchNzDIot/GKEMuG0u8+CR1NCEF9yMxsf1N/Ha/NW3ZH o48sE6jMz1JhWtT08vkNW0dZZNMb13cX3D2/R2VsyeZ03Sp1xA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1uSayniksqrVgIRwm+psvXKJEPHOr+KkzWCprrGTgglOmVCEMdnZxPbggks7ggKdZQOf/ln1oWgvvIqTSd3OBo= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3145:0:b0:64e:ac9a:eb27 with SMTP id x66-20020a253145000000b0064eac9aeb27mr31596460ybx.630.1655829621493; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:40:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220610213335.3077375-1-rhett.aultman@samsara.com> <20220610213335.3077375-2-rhett.aultman@samsara.com> <20220611153104.sksoxn4dmo5rgnk3@pengutronix.de> In-Reply-To: From: Vincent MAILHOL Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 01:40:10 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] drivers: usb/core/urb: Add URB_FREE_COHERENT To: Alan Stern Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Marc Kleine-Budde , Rhett Aultman , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-can , Oliver Neukum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-can@vger.kernel.org On Wed 22 Jun 2022 at 01:15, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 12:55:46AM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > > On Wed. 22 Jun 2022 at 00:13, Alan Stern wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:59:16PM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > > > > I (probably wrongly) assumed that urb::transfer_buffer_length was the > > > > allocated length and urb::actual_length was what was actually being > > > > transferred. Right now, I am just confused. Seems that I need to study > > > > a bit more and understand the real purpose of > > > > urb::transfer_buffer_length because I still fail to understand in > > > > which situation this can be different from the allocated length. > > > > > > urb->transfer_buffer_length is the amount of data that the driver wants > > > to send or expects to receive. urb->actual_length is the amount of data > > > that was actually sent or actually received. > > > > > > Neither of these values has to be the same as the size of the buffer -- > > > but they better not be bigger! > > > > Thanks. Now things are a bit clearer. > > I guess that for the outcoming URB what I proposed made no sense. For > > incoming URB, I guess that most of the drivers want to set > > urb::transfer_buffer once for all with the allocated size and never > > touch it again. > > Not necessarily. Some drivers may behave differently from the way you > expect. Yes, my point is not to generalise. Agree that there are exceptions. > > Maybe the patch only makes sense of the incoming URB. Would it make > > sense to keep it but with an additional check to trigger a dmesg > > warning if this is used on an outcoming endpoint and with additional > > comment that the URB_FREE_COHERENT requires urb::transfer_buffer to be > > the allocated size? > > Well, what really matters is that the transfer_buffer_length value has > to be the same as the size of the buffer. If that's true, the direction > of the URB doesn't matter. So yes, that requirement would definitely > need to be documented. > > On the other hand, there wouldn't be any way to tell automatically if > the requirement was violated. ACK. That's why I said "add comment" and not "check". > And since this function could only be > used with some of the URBs you're interested in, does it make sense to > add it at all? The other URBs would still need their buffers to be > freed manually. The rationale is that similarly to URB_FREE_BUFFER, this would be optional. This is why I did not propose to reuse URB_NO_TRANSFER_DMA_MAP but instead add a new flag. I propose it because I think that many drivers can benefit from it. More than that, the real concern is that many developers forget to free the DMA allocated memory. c.f. original message of this thread: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-can/alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2206031547001.1630869@thelappy/T/#m2ef343d3ee708178b1e37be898884bafa7f49f2f And the usual fix requires to create local arrays to store references to the transfer buffer and DMA addresses. I would like to find a solution to remove this burden from the drivers and have an USB API to easily free the URB when, for example, killing an anchor. Yours sincerely, Vincent Mailhol