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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "Stephan Müller" <smueller@chronox.de>,
	"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Lee, Chun-Yi" <joeyli.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	"Chen Yu" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Oliver Neukum" <oneukum@suse.com>,
	"Ryan Chen" <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Giovanni Gherdovich" <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] crypto: hkdf - RFC5869 Key Derivation Function
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:55:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190112095535.36rh3ptnrf7yxacv@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190112051252.GA639@sol.localdomain>

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 09:12:54PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> Hi Stephan,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 08:10:39PM +0100, Stephan Müller wrote:
> > The RFC5869 compliant Key Derivation Function is implemented as a
> > random number generator considering that it behaves like a deterministic
> > RNG.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the proof of concept!  I guess it ended up okay.  But can you explain
> more the benefits of using the crypto_rng interface, as opposed to just some
> crypto_hkdf_*() helper functions that are exported for modules to use?

I agree.  I see no benefit in adding this through the RNG API as
opposed to just providing it as a helper.  If some form of hardware
acceleration were to eventuate in the future we could always revisit
this.

Cheers,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-12  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190103143227.9138-1-jlee@suse.com>
     [not found] ` <1894062.aDvIuj92vB@tauon.chronox.de>
     [not found]   ` <20190109082103.GA8586@sol.localdomain>
2019-01-11 19:08     ` [PATCH 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:09       ` [PATCH 1/6] crypto: add template handling for RNGs Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10       ` [PATCH 2/6] crypto: kdf - SP800-108 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-12  5:27         ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14  9:31           ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10       ` [PATCH 3/6] crypto: kdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-12  5:26         ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14  9:26           ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10       ` [PATCH 4/6] crypto: hkdf - RFC5869 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-12  5:12         ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-12  9:55           ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2019-01-13  7:56             ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-13 16:52               ` James Bottomley
2019-01-14  9:30           ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-14 17:53             ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14 18:44               ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-11 19:10       ` [PATCH 5/6] crypto: hkdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-12  5:19         ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14  9:25           ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-14 17:44             ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-11 19:11       ` [PATCH 6/6] crypto: tcrypt - add KDF test invocation Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:06       ` [PATCH v2 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:07         ` [PATCH v2 1/6] crypto: add template handling for RNGs Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08         ` [PATCH v2 2/6] crypto: kdf - SP800-108 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08         ` [PATCH v2 3/6] crypto: kdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08         ` [PATCH v2 4/6] crypto: hkdf - HMAC-based Extract-and-Expand KDF Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:09         ` [PATCH v2 5/6] crypto: hkdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:09         ` [PATCH v2 6/6] crypto: tcrypt - add KDF test invocation Stephan Müller
2019-01-28 10:07         ` [PATCH v2 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Mueller
2019-01-30 10:08           ` Herbert Xu
2019-01-30 14:39             ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-08  7:45               ` Herbert Xu
2019-02-08  8:00                 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-08  8:05                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-02-08  8:17                     ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-19  5:44                       ` Herbert Xu

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