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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: "open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE" 
	<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Samuel Neves <sneves@dei.uc.pt>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Martin Willi <martin@strongswan.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/20] crypto: crypto API library interfaces for WireGuard
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 15:42:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191004134233.GD112631@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu-+3AWNAK0WWSFQT15Q3r6ak7wGr3ZROyJ35-4GN6=iJQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 10:43:29AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 16:17, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> ...
> >
> > In the future, I would like to extend these interfaces to use static calls,
> > so that the accelerated implementations can be [un]plugged at runtime. For
> > the time being, we rely on weak aliases and conditional exports so that the
> > users of the library interfaces link directly to the accelerated versions,
> > but without the ability to unplug them.
> >
> 
> As it turns out, we don't actually need static calls for this.
> Instead, we can simply permit weak symbol references to go unresolved
> between modules (as we already do in the kernel itself, due to the
> fact that ELF permits it), and have the accelerated code live in
> separate modules that may not be loadable on certain systems, or be
> blacklisted by the user.

You're saying that at module insertion time, the kernel will override
weak symbols with those provided by the module itself? At runtime?

Do you know offhand how this patching works? Is there a PLT that gets
patched, and so the calls all go through a layer of function pointer
indirection? Or are all call sites fixed up at insertion time and the
call instructions rewritten with some runtime patching magic?

Unless the method is the latter, I would assume that static calls are
much faster in general? Or the approach already in this series is
perhaps fine enough, and we don't need to break this apart into
individual modules complicating everything?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-02 14:16 [PATCH v2 00/20] crypto: crypto API library interfaces for WireGuard Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] crypto: chacha - move existing library code into lib/crypto Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:30   ` Greg KH
2019-10-04 13:21   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] crypto: x86/chacha - expose SIMD ChaCha routine as library function Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:31   ` Greg KH
2019-10-04 13:36   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 13:54     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] crypto: arm64/chacha - expose arm64 " Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:31   ` Greg KH
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] crypto: arm/chacha - expose ARM " Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 13:52   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:23     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:28       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:29       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 15:43         ` Eric Biggers
2019-10-04 15:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-10-04 15:35         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 15:38           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] crypto: mips/chacha - import accelerated 32r2 code from Zinc Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 13:46   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:38     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:38       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:59       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 15:05         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 15:15         ` René van Dorst
2019-10-04 15:23           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-05  9:05             ` René van Dorst
2019-10-06 19:12             ` René van Dorst
2019-10-02 14:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] crypto: poly1305 - move into lib/crypto and refactor into library Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] crypto: x86/poly1305 - expose existing driver as poly1305 library Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] crypto: arm64/poly1305 - incorporate OpenSSL/CRYPTOGAMS NEON implementation Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] crypto: arm/poly1305 " Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] crypto: mips/poly1305 - import accelerated 32r2 code from Zinc Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 13:48   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] int128: move __uint128_t compiler test to Kconfig Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] crypto: BLAKE2s - generic C library implementation and selftest Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] crypto: BLAKE2s - x86_64 library implementation Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] crypto: Curve25519 - generic C library implementations and selftest Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 13:57   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:03     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] crypto: lib/curve25519 - work around Clang stack spilling issue Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] crypto: Curve25519 - x86_64 library implementation Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] crypto: arm - import Bernstein and Schwabe's Curve25519 ARM implementation Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] crypto: arm/Curve25519 - wire up NEON implementation Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:00   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:11     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] crypto: chacha20poly1305 - import construction and selftest from Zinc Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-02 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] crypto: lib/chacha20poly1305 - reimplement crypt_from_sg() routine Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:03   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:07     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-03  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] crypto: crypto API library interfaces for WireGuard Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 13:42   ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2019-10-04 13:52     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-04 14:55         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:59           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-04 14:56         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-05  7:24           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-07  4:44             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07  5:23               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-07 15:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-07 15:12                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-10-07 16:05                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-04 14:50     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-04 13:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-10-04 14:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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