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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: read() must consume poll events, not poll()
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 20:32:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9o5n6TLfB3GsXz4KOt9iwxbT0e4ut65AFMsJsAm7ayNRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkw2hafj.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

Hi Eric,

On 5/12/22, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 01:27:44PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 05:43:21PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> > On Mo, 02.05.22 17:30, Jason A. Donenfeld (Jason@zx2c4.com) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Just wanted to double check with you that this change wouldn't break
>>> > > how
>>> > > you're using it in systemd for /proc/sys/kernel/hostname:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/39cd62c30c2e6bb5ec13ebc1ecf0d37ed015b1b8/src/journal/journald-server.c#L1832
>>> > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/39cd62c30c2e6bb5ec13ebc1ecf0d37ed015b1b8/src/resolve/resolved-manager.c#L465
>>> > >
>>> > > I couldn't find anybody else actually polling on it. Interestingly,
>>> > > it
>>> > > looks like sd_event_add_io uses epoll() inside, but you're not
>>> > > hitting
>>> > > the bug that Jann pointed out (because I suppose you're not poll()ing
>>> > > on
>>> > > an epoll fd).
>>> >
>>> > Well, if you made sure this still works, I am fine either way ;-)
>>>
>>> Actually... ugh. It doesn't work. systemd uses uname() to read the host
>>> name, and doesn't actually read() the file descriptor after receiving
>>> the poll event on it. So I guess I'll forget this, and maybe we'll have
>>> to live with sysctl's poll() being broken. :(
>
> We should be able to modify calling uname() to act the same as reading
> the file descriptor.

How? That sounds like madness. read() takes a fd. uname() doesn't. Are
you proposing we walk through the fds of the process calling uname()
til we find a matching one and then twiddle it's private context
state? I mean I guess that'd work, but...

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02 14:06 [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: read() must consume poll events, not poll() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 14:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] random: add fork_event sysctl for polling VM forks Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 15:40   ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-02 16:12     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 16:51       ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-02 17:59         ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 18:29           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:57             ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 20:03               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03  8:29           ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 11:55             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 12:33               ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-02 18:04         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:34           ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 18:46             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:56               ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 19:27                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 19:41                   ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-04 15:45             ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-05-02 18:44           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03  7:42           ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03  9:08             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03  9:32               ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 10:07                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 12:42                   ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-11  0:40   ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11  1:18     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-11 12:59       ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11 13:19         ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-11 13:19         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-11 14:32           ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11 13:20       ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: read() must consume poll events, not poll() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 15:43   ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 11:27     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-12 17:40       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-12 18:29         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-05-12 18:32           ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-05-12 18:22 ` Lucas De Marchi
2022-05-12 18:27   ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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