From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: George Spelvin <linux@sciencehorizons.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
"Daniel J . Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>,
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Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
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Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] siphash: add cryptographically secure PRF
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 02:39:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9r4YNqNSZ-KXAHtJN_vm+eL1tSoC-6muHaFUN6fWhkO2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216234408.30174.qmail@ns.sciencehorizons.net>
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:44 AM, George Spelvin
<linux@sciencehorizons.net> wrote:
> Ths advice I'd give now is:
> - Implement
> unsigned long hsiphash(const void *data, size_t len, const unsigned long key[2])
> .. as SipHash on 64-bit (maybe SipHash-1-3, still being discussed) and
> HalfSipHash on 32-bit.
I already did this. Check my branch.
> - Document when it may or may not be used carefully.
Good idea. I'll write up some extensive documentation about all of
this, detailing use cases and our various conclusions.
> - #define get_random_int (unsigned)get_random_long
That's a good idea, since ultimately the other just casts in the
return value. I wonder if this could also lead to a similar aliasing
with arch_get_random_int, since I'm pretty sure all rdrand-like
instructions return native word size anyway.
> - Ted, Andy Lutorminski and I will try to figure out a construction of
> get_random_long() that we all like.
And me, I hope... No need to make this exclusive.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-17 1:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-15 20:29 [PATCH v5 0/4] The SipHash Patchset Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-15 20:30 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] siphash: add cryptographically secure PRF Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-15 22:42 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-15 23:00 ` Jean-Philippe Aumasson
2016-12-15 23:28 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 17:06 ` David Laight
2016-12-16 17:09 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:46 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 8:08 ` Jean-Philippe Aumasson
2016-12-16 12:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 13:22 ` Jean-Philippe Aumasson
2016-12-16 15:51 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 17:36 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 18:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 20:17 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 20:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-16 22:13 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-16 22:18 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 23:44 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-17 1:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2016-12-17 2:15 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-17 15:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-17 16:14 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-12-19 17:21 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-17 12:42 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 20:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 19:47 ` Tom Herbert
2016-12-16 20:41 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-16 20:57 ` Tom Herbert
2016-12-16 20:44 ` Daniel Micay
2016-12-16 21:09 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-17 15:21 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-19 14:14 ` David Laight
2016-12-19 18:10 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-19 20:18 ` Jean-Philippe Aumasson
2016-12-16 2:14 ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-17 14:55 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-12-19 17:08 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-19 17:19 ` Jean-Philippe Aumasson
2016-12-15 20:30 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] siphash: add Nu{32,64} helpers Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 10:39 ` David Laight
2016-12-16 15:44 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-15 20:30 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] secure_seq: use SipHash in place of MD5 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 9:59 ` David Laight
2016-12-16 15:57 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-15 20:30 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] random: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] The SipHash Patchset Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] siphash: add cryptographically secure PRF Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] secure_seq: use SipHash in place of MD5 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] random: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 21:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] md5: remove from lib and only live in crypto Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 3:03 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] syncookies: use SipHash in place of SHA1 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] The SipHash Patchset Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] siphash: add cryptographically secure PRF Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 1:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] secure_seq: use SipHash in place of MD5 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] random: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:13 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-22 2:07 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 2:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-22 2:49 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 3:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 5:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22 6:03 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22 16:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 16:30 ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22 16:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 12:47 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 13:10 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:05 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 15:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:33 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 15:41 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:51 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 15:53 ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 15:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22 18:08 ` [kernel-hardening] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-22 18:13 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 19:50 ` [kernel-hardening] " Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22 2:31 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] md5: remove from lib and only live in crypto Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] syncookies: use SipHash in place of SHA1 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 23:02 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] siphash: implement HalfSipHash1-3 for hash tables Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-22 0:46 ` Andi Kleen
2016-12-16 20:43 [PATCH v5 1/4] siphash: add cryptographically secure PRF Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 20:49 Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-16 21:25 ` George Spelvin
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