From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andy Lutomirski Subject: Re: x86-64: Maintain 16-byte stack alignment Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:08:07 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20170110143340.GA3787@gondor.apana.org.au> <20170110143913.GA3822@gondor.apana.org.au> <20170111031124.GA4515@gondor.apana.org.au> <20170111043541.GA4944@gondor.apana.org.au> <20170112140215.rh247gwk55fjzmg7@treble> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Josh Poimboeuf , Herbert Xu , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Crypto Mailing List , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Andy Lutomirski , Ard Biesheuvel To: Linus Torvalds Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-crypto.vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: >> >> Just to clarify, I think you're asking if, for versions of gcc which >> don't support -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3, objtool can analyze all C >> functions to ensure their stacks are 16-byte aligned. >> >> It's certainly possible, but I don't see how that solves the problem. >> The stack will still be misaligned by entry code. Or am I missing >> something? > > I think the argument is that we *could* try to align things, if we > just had some tool that actually then verified that we aren't missing > anything. > > I'm not entirely happy with checking the generated code, though, > because as Ingo says, you have a 50:50 chance of just getting it right > by mistake. So I'd much rather have some static tool that checks > things at a code level (ie coccinelle or sparse). What I meant was checking the entry code to see if it aligns stack frames, and good luck getting sparse to do that. Hmm, getting 16-byte alignment for real may actually be entirely a lost cause. After all, I think we have some inline functions that do asm volatile ("call ..."), and I don't see any credible way of forcing alignment short of generating an entirely new stack frame and aligning that. Ick. This whole situation stinks, and I wish that the gcc developers had been less daft here in the first place or that we'd noticed and gotten it fixed much longer ago. Can we come up with a macro like STACK_ALIGN_16 that turns into __aligned__(32) on bad gcc versions and combine that with your sparse patch?