From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
Cc: ira.weiny@intel.com, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] cxl/pci: Add DOE Auxiliary Devices
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 16:15:36 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211117221536.GA1778765@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211117122335.00000b35@Huawei.com>
[+cc Christoph, Thomas for INTx/MSI/bus mastering question below]
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:23:35PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 17:48:29 -0600
> Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 04:50:54PM -0700, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > > From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
> > >
> > > CXL devices have DOE mailboxes. Create auxiliary devices which can be
> > > driven by the generic DOE auxiliary driver.
> > Based on the ECN, it sounds like any PCI device can have DOE
> > capabilities, so I suspect the support for it should be in
> > drivers/pci/, not drivers/cxl/. I don't really see anything
> > CXL-specific below.
>
> Agreed though how it all gets tied together isn't totally clear
> to me yet. The messy bit is interrupts given I don't think we have
> a model for enabling those anywhere other than in individual PCI drivers.
Ah. Yeah, that is a little messy. The only real precedent where the
PCI core and a driver might need to coordinate on interrupts is the
portdrv. So far we've pretended that bridges do not have
device-specific functionality that might require interrupts. I don't
think that's actually true, but we haven't integrated drivers for the
tuning, performance monitoring, and similar features that bridges may
have. Yet.
In any case, I think the argument that DOE capabilities are not
CXL-specific still holds.
> > What do these DOE capabilities look like in lspci? I don't see any
> > support in the current version (which looks like it's a year old).
>
> I don't think anyone has added support yet, but it would be simple to do.
> Given possibility of breaking things if we actually exercise the discovery
> protocol, we'll be constrained to just reporting there is a DOE instances
> which is of limited use.
I think it's essential that lspci at least show the existence of DOE
capabilities and the safe-to-read registers (Capabilities, Control,
Status).
There's a very long lead time between adding the support and getting
updated versions of lspci into distros.
> > > + * An implementation of a cxl type3 device may support an unknown
> > > + * number of interrupts. Assume that number is not that large and
> > > + * request them all.
> > > + */
> > > + irqs = pci_msix_vec_count(pdev);
> > > + rc = pci_alloc_irq_vectors(pdev, irqs, irqs, PCI_IRQ_MSIX);
> > > + if (rc != irqs) {
> > > + /* No interrupt available - carry on */
> > > + dev_dbg(dev, "No interrupts available for DOE\n");
> > > + } else {
> > > + /*
> > > + * Enabling bus mastering could be done within the DOE
> > > + * initialization, but as it potentially has other impacts
> > > + * keep it within the driver.
> > > + */
> > > + pci_set_master(pdev);
> >
> > This enables the device to perform DMA, which doesn't seem to have
> > anything to do with the rest of this code. Can it go somewhere
> > near something to do with DMA?
>
> Needed for MSI/MSIx as well. The driver doesn't do DMA for anything
> else. Hence it's here in the interrupt enable path.
Oh, right, of course. A hint here that MSI/MSI-X depends on bus
mastering would save me the trouble.
I wonder if the infrastructure, e.g., something inside
pci_alloc_irq_vectors_affinity() should do this for us. The
connection is "obvious" but not mentioned in
Documentation/PCI/msi-howto.rst and I'm not sure how callers that
supply PCI_IRQ_ALL_TYPES would know whether they got a single MSI
vector (which requires bus mastering) or an INTx vector (which does
not).
> > So we get an auxiliary device for every instance of a DOE
> > capability? I think the commit log should mention something about
> > how many are created (e.g., "one per DOE capability"), how they
> > are named, whether they appear in sysfs, how drivers bind to them,
> > etc.
> >
> > I assume there needs to be some coordination between possible
> > multiple users of a DOE capability? How does that work?
>
> The DOE handling implementation makes everything synchronous - so if
> multiple users each may have to wait on queueing their query /
> responses exchanges.
>
> The fun of non OS software accessing these is still an open
> question.
Sounds like something that potentially could be wrapped up in a safe
but slow interface that could be usable by others, including lspci?
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-17 22:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-05 23:50 [PATCH 0/5] CXL: Read CDAT and DSMAS data from the device ira.weiny
2021-11-05 23:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] PCI: Add vendor ID for the PCI SIG ira.weiny
2021-11-17 21:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-05 23:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] PCI/DOE: Add Data Object Exchange Aux Driver ira.weiny
2021-11-08 12:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-10 5:45 ` Ira Weiny
2021-11-18 18:48 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-16 23:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-03 20:48 ` Dan Williams
2021-12-03 23:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-04 15:47 ` Dan Williams
2021-12-06 12:27 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-05 23:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] cxl/pci: Add DOE Auxiliary Devices ira.weiny
2021-11-08 13:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-11 1:31 ` Ira Weiny
2021-11-11 11:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-16 23:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-17 12:23 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-17 22:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-11-18 10:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-19 6:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-29 23:37 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-29 23:59 ` Dan Williams
2021-11-30 6:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-05 23:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] cxl/mem: Add CDAT table reading from DOE ira.weiny
2021-11-08 13:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-08 23:19 ` Ira Weiny
2021-11-08 15:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-08 22:25 ` Ira Weiny
2021-11-09 11:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-19 14:40 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-05 23:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] cxl/cdat: Parse out DSMAS data from CDAT table ira.weiny
2021-11-08 14:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-11 3:58 ` Ira Weiny
2021-11-11 11:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-18 17:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-19 14:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
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