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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Jernej Škrabec" <jernej.skrabec-gGgVlfcn5nU@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-pwm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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	Maxime Ripard <mripard-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
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	kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 4/6] pwm: sun4i: Add support for H6 PWM
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:51:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190729185108.tpilwoooxvi2z72e@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <173825848.1FZsmuHfpq@jernej-laptop>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 08:46:25PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> Dne ponedeljek, 29. julij 2019 ob 20:40:41 CEST je Uwe Kleine-König 
> napisal(a):
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 06:40:15PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> > > Dne ponedeljek, 29. julij 2019 ob 18:24:28 CEST je Uwe Kleine-König
> > > 
> > > napisal(a):
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 12:09:40AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 12:07 AM Uwe Kleine-König
> > > > > 
> > > > > <u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:55:52PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
> > > > > > > Dne ponedeljek, 29. julij 2019 ob 08:40:30 CEST je Uwe
> > > > > > > Kleine-König
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > napisal(a):
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 08:40:43PM +0200, Jernej Skrabec wrote:
> > > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/pwm/pwm-sun4i.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/pwm/pwm-sun4i.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -331,6 +331,13 @@ static const struct sun4i_pwm_data
> > > > > > > > > sun4i_pwm_single_bypass = {>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   .npwm = 1,
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  };
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > +static const struct sun4i_pwm_data
> > > > > > > > > sun50i_pwm_dual_bypass_clk_rst
> > > > > > > > > = {
> > > > > > > > > + .has_bus_clock = true,
> > > > > > > > > + .has_prescaler_bypass = true,
> > > > > > > > > + .has_reset = true,
> > > > > > > > > + .npwm = 2,
> > > > > > > > > +};
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  static const struct of_device_id sun4i_pwm_dt_ids[] = {
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >   {
> > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > >           .compatible = "allwinner,sun4i-a10-pwm",
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > @@ -347,6 +354,9 @@ static const struct of_device_id
> > > > > > > > > sun4i_pwm_dt_ids[] =
> > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   }, {
> > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > >           .compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-h3-pwm",
> > > > > > > > >           .data = &sun4i_pwm_single_bypass,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > + }, {
> > > > > > > > > +         .compatible = "allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm",
> > > > > > > > > +         .data = &sun50i_pwm_dual_bypass_clk_rst,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you follow my suggestion for the two previous patches, you
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > use:
> > > > > > > >     compatible = "allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm",
> > > > > > > >     "allwinner,sun5i-a10s-pwm";
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > and drop this patch.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Maxime found out that it's not compatible with A10s due to
> > > > > > > difference
> > > > > > > in bypass bit, but yes, I know what you mean.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Since H6 requires reset line and bus clock to be specified, it's
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > compatible from DT binding side. New yaml based binding must
> > > > > > > somehow
> > > > > > > know that in order to be able to validate DT node, so it needs
> > > > > > > standalone compatible. However, depending on conclusions of other
> > > > > > > discussions, this new compatible can be associated with already
> > > > > > > available quirks structure or have it's own.> >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I cannot follow. You should be able to specify in the binding that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > reset line and bus clock is optional. Then allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm
> > > > > > without a reset line and bus clock also verifies, but this doesn't
> > > > > > really hurt (and who knows, maybe the next allwinner chip needs
> > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > this).
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is not optional. It will not work if either the clocks or reset
> > > > > controls
> > > > > are missing. How would these be optional anyway? Either it's connected
> > > > > and
> > > > > thus required, or it's not and therefore should be omitted from the
> > > > > description.
> > > > 
> > > > [Just arguing about the clock here, the argumentation is analogous for
> > > > the reset control.]
> > > > 
> > > > From the driver's perspective it's optional: There are devices with and
> > > > without a bus clock. This doesn't mean that you can just ignore this
> > > > clock if it's specified. It's optional in the sense "If dt doesn't
> > > > specify it, then assume this is a device that doesn't have it and so you
> > > > don't need to handle it." but not in the sense "it doesn't matter if
> > > > you handle it or not.".
> > > > 
> > > > Other than that I'm on your side. So for example I think it's not
> > > > optimal that gpiod_get_optional returns NULL if GPIOLIB=n or that
> > > > devm_reset_control_get_optional returns NULL if RESET_CONTROLLER=n
> > > > because this hides exactly the kind of problem you point out here.
> > > 
> > > I think there's misunderstanding. I only argued that we can't use
> > > 
> > > compatible = "allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm",
> > > 
> > > 	 "allwinner,sun5i-a10s-pwm";
> > > 
> > > as you suggested and only
> > > 
> > > compatible = "allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm";
> > > 
> > > will work. Not because of driver itself (it can still use _optional()
> > > variants), but because of DT binding, which should be able to validate H6
> > > PWM node - reset and bus clock references are required in this case.
> > 
> > I think I understood. In my eyes there is no need to let validation of
> > the DT bindings catch a missing "optional" property that is needed on
> > H6.
> > 
> > You have to draw the line somewhere which information the driver has
> > hard-coded and what is only provided by the device tree and just assumed
> > to be correct by the driver. You argue the driver should know that 
> 
> No, in this thread I argue that DT validation tool, executed by
> 
> make ARCH=arm64 dtbs_check
> 
> should catch that. This is not a driver, but DT binding described in YAML.

The argumentation is the same. dtbs_check doesn't notice if the base
address of your "allwinner,sun50i-h6-pwm" device is wrong. So why should
it catch a missing reset controller phandle?

Best regards
Uwe


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-26 18:40 [PATCH 0/6] pwm: sun4i: Add support for Allwinner H6 Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-26 18:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: pwm: allwinner: Add H6 PWM description Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-27 10:42   ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <20190726184045.14669-1-jernej.skrabec-gGgVlfcn5nU@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-26 18:40   ` [PATCH 2/6] pwm: sun4i: Add a quirk for reset line Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-27 10:42     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20190726184045.14669-3-jernej.skrabec-gGgVlfcn5nU@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29  6:36       ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]         ` <20190729063630.rn325whatfnc3m7n-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29  6:43           ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]             ` <CAGb2v65KOpivHQNkg+R2=D=ejCJYnPdVcyHJZW-GJCR8j0Yk0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29  7:12               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-29 10:18                 ` Philipp Zabel
2019-07-29 16:37                 ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]                   ` <20190729163715.vtv7lkrywewomxga-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 18:20                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-26 18:40   ` [PATCH 3/6] pwm: sun4i: Add a quirk for bus clock Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-27 10:46     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]       ` <20190727104628.jsdvpxvcpzru75v5-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-27 14:15         ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-27 14:27         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2019-07-29  6:38     ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]       ` <20190729063825.wxfky6nswcru26g7-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 15:48         ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-29 16:14           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-29 16:45             ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]               ` <20190729164516.yxfgj2zd3d5ii4c4-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 19:04                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-26 18:40   ` [PATCH 4/6] pwm: sun4i: Add support for H6 PWM Jernej Skrabec
     [not found]     ` <20190726184045.14669-5-jernej.skrabec-gGgVlfcn5nU@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29  6:40       ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]         ` <20190729064030.7uenld2kbof45zti-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 15:55           ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-29 16:07             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-29 16:09               ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]                 ` <CAGb2v66C=ghjck6rxTg6Vt4xN2DcXntzVOa=KJWh98KRjkhnHQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 16:24                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                     ` <20190729162428.bxuzgxg5sjqptlbp-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 16:40                       ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-29 18:40                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                           ` <20190729184041.vlvfz3vz3ykhufdk-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 18:46                             ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-29 18:51                               ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <20190729185108.tpilwoooxvi2z72e-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 22:04                                   ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-30  8:09                                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                                       ` <20190730080900.hhxrqun7vk4nsj2h-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-30  8:32                                         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2019-07-30 17:06                                       ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
2019-07-31  6:52                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12  9:56                                           ` [linux-sunxi] " Maxime Ripard
2019-08-12 10:47                                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                                               ` <20190812104700.vzpdxx3yddthiif5-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-08-12 10:51                                                 ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-26 18:40   ` [PATCH 5/6] pwm: sun4i: Add support to output source clock directly Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-27 10:50     ` Maxime Ripard
     [not found]       ` <20190727105008.he35sixfvoyl2lm7-YififvaboMKzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-27 14:28         ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-27 14:54           ` Chen-Yu Tsai
     [not found]     ` <20190726184045.14669-6-jernej.skrabec-gGgVlfcn5nU@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29  7:06       ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]         ` <20190729070605.vlu7kgzn362ph2q3-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-29 16:16           ` Jernej Škrabec
2019-07-29 16:29             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-07-26 18:40 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: dts: allwinner: h6: Add PWM node Jernej Skrabec
2019-07-27 10:51   ` Maxime Ripard

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