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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Efficiency of the phandle_cache on ppc64/SLOF
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 14:35:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191209133531.ykkknqmeeb36rv7l@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <084ed924-eaed-5232-a9f6-fe60128fe11a@gmail.com>

On 2019-12-05 20:01:41 [-0600], Frank Rowand wrote:
> Is there a memory usage issue for the systems that led to this thread?

No, no memory issue led to this thread. I was just testing my patch and
I assumed that I did something wrong in the counting/lock drop/lock
acquire/allocate path because the array was hardly used. So I started to
look deeper…
Once I figured out everything was fine, I was curious if everyone is
aware of the different phandle creation by dtc vs POWER. And I posted
the mail in the thread.
Once you confirmed that everything is "known / not an issue" I was ready
to take off [0].

Later more replies came in such as one mail [1] from Rob describing the
original reason with 814 phandles. _Here_ I was just surprised that 1024
were used over 64 entries for a benefit of 60ms. I understand that this
is low concern for you because that memory is released if modules are
not enabled. I usually see that module support is left enabled.

However, Rob suggested / asked about the fixed size array (this is how I
understood it):
|And yes, as mentioned earlier I don't like the complexity. I didn't
|from the start and I'm  I'm still of the opinion we should have a
|fixed or 1 time sized true cache (i.e. smaller than total # of
|phandles). That would solve the RT memory allocation and locking issue
|too.

so I attempted to ask if we should have the fixed size array maybe
with the hash_32() instead the mask. This would make my other patch
obsolete because the fixed size array should not have a RT issue. The
hash_32() part here would address the POWER issue where the cache is
currently not used efficiently.

If you want instead to keep things as-is then this is okay from my side.
If you want to keep this cache off on POWER then I could contribute a
patch doing so.

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20191202110732.4dvzrro5o6zrlpax@linutronix.de/
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/CAL_JsqKieG5=teL7gABPKbJOQfvoS9s-ZPF-=R0yEE_LUoy-Kw@mail.gmail.com/
> -Frank

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-09 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29 15:10 [RFC] Efficiency of the phandle_cache on ppc64/SLOF Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-11-30  2:14 ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-02 11:07   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-12-03  4:12   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-12-03  4:28     ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-03 16:56       ` Rob Herring
2019-12-05 16:35         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-12-06  2:01           ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-09 13:35             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2019-12-10  1:51               ` Rob Herring
2019-12-10  8:17                 ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-10 12:46                   ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-11 14:42                   ` Rob Herring
2019-12-06  1:52         ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-08  6:59           ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-03  4:03 ` Michael Ellerman
2019-12-03 18:35   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-06  1:37     ` Frank Rowand
2019-12-06 23:40       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-08  4:30         ` Frank Rowand

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