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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	kernel@collabora.com, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com>,
	Andrey Smirnov <andrew.smirnov@gmail.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Seung-Woo Kim <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/11] drm/bridge: Make the bridge chain a double-linked list
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 12:51:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191227105154.GA4769@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a30de8e-9cc9-e3ff-a19a-45ea085ed9fc@samsung.com>

Hi Andrzej,

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:42:25AM +0100, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> On 24.12.2019 10:44, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 10:16:49 +0100 Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> >> On 23.12.2019 10:55, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> >>> On 16.12.2019 16:25, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> >>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 16:02:36 +0100 Marek Szyprowski wrote:  
> >>>>> On 16.12.2019 15:55, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> >>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 14:54:25 +0100
> >>>>>> Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com> wrote:  
> >>>>>>> On 03.12.2019 15:15, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> >>>>>>>> So that each element in the chain can easily access its predecessor.
> >>>>>>>> This will be needed to support bus format negotiation between elements
> >>>>>>>> of the bridge chain.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
> >>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>
> >>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>  
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've noticed that this patch got merged to linux-next as commit
> >>>>>>> 05193dc38197021894b17239fafbd2eb1afe5a45. Sadly it breaks booting of
> >>>>>>> Samsung Exynos5250-based Arndale board. Booting stops after following
> >>>>>>> messages:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [drm] Exynos DRM: using 14400000.fimd device for DMA mapping operations
> >>>>>>> exynos-drm exynos-drm: bound 14400000.fimd (ops fimd_component_ops)
> >>>>>>> exynos-drm exynos-drm: bound 14450000.mixer (ops mixer_component_ops)
> >>>>>>> exynos-drm exynos-drm: bound 14500000.dsi (ops exynos_dsi_component_ops)
> >>>>>>> exynos-drm exynos-drm: bound 14530000.hdmi (ops hdmi_component_ops)
> >>>>>>> [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
> >>>>>>> [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
> >>>>>>> [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
> >>>>>>> [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
> >>>>>>> [drm] Initialized exynos 1.1.0 20180330 for exynos-drm on minor 0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I will try to debug this and provide more information soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you try with this diff applied?  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This patch doesn't change anything.  
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay. Can you do a list_for_each_entry() on both encoder->bridge_chain
> >>>> and dsi->bridge_chain (dump bridge pointers in a pr_info()) before and
> >>>> after the list_splice_init() call?  
> >>>
> >>> encoder->bridge_chain contains only one element. dsi->drive_chain is empty.
> >>>
> >>> Replacing that list_splice() with INIT_LIST_HEAD(&encoder->bridge_chain) 
> >>> fixed the boot issue.
> >
> > If INIT_LIST_HEAD() worked, I don't understand why replacing the
> > list_splice() call by a list_splice_init() (which doing a list_splice()
> > + INIT_LIST_HEAD()) didn't fix the problem. Are you sure the
> > list_splice_init() version doesn't work?
> >
> >>> It looks that this is related with the way the 
> >>> Exynos DSI handles bridges (in bridge and out brige?). Maybe Andrzej 
> >>> will give a bit more detailed comment and spread some light on this.  
> >>
> >> Hi Marek, Boris,
> >>
> >> I have not followed latest patches due to high work load, my bad. Marek
> >> thanks from pointing
> >>
> >> About ExynosDSI bridge handling:
> >>
> >> The order of calling encoder, bridge (and consequently panel) ops
> >> enforced by DRM core (bridge->pre_enable, encoder->enable,
> >> bridge->enable) does not fit to ExynosDSI hardware initialization
> >> sequence, if I remember correctly it does not fit to whole MIPI DSI
> >> standard (I think similar situation is with eDP). As a result DSI
> >> drivers must use some ugly workarounds, rely on HW properly coping with
> >> incorrect sequences, or, as in case of ExynosDSI driver, just avoid
> >> using encoder->bridge chaining and call bridge ops by itself when suitable.
> >
> > Yes, that's definitely hack-ish, and I proposed 2 solutions to address
> > that in previous versions of this patchset, unfortunately I didn't get
> > any feedback so I went for the less invasive option (keep the hack but
> > adapt it to the double-linked list changes), which still lead to
> > regressions :-/.
> >
> > Just a reminder of my 2 proposals:
> >
> > 1/ implement the bridge_ops->pre_enable/post_disable() hooks so you can
> >    split your enable/disable logic in 2 parts and make sure things are
> >    ready when the panel/next bridge tries to send DSI commands
> 
> If it means 'convert exynos_dsi to bridge' I do not think it will help -
> 
> - pre_enable op will be still called after pre_enable op of downstream
> bridge - and this is the main reason why exynos_dsi do not use encoder
> bridge chain - it needs to perform some operations BEFORE (pre)enabling
> downstream devices.
> 
> > 2/ move everything that's needed to send DSI commands out of the
> >    ->enable() path (maybe in runtime PM resume/suspend hooks) so you
> >    can call that in the DSI transfer path too
> 
> It looks like a solution for DSI protocol, where control bus is shared
> with data bus, but the problem is more general - we have source and sink
> connected with some local bus, which has some negotiation/enable/disable
> protocol/requirements. And drm_core/bridge framework enforces us to fit
> every such protocol to 'drm_bridge protocol' with few opses called in
> fixed order, without clearly defined purpose of each ops. That does not
> sound generic and results in multiple issues:
> 
> - different drivers uses different opses to perform the same thing,
> 
> - different drivers assumes different things about their sinks/sources
> in their opses,
> 
> - more complicated sequences does not fit at all to this model.
> 
> All this results in incompatibilities between drivers which become
> visible with devices used in different configurations/platforms.

I fully agree with you, not defining the semantics of the bridge
operations precisely was I believe a mistake, and we're paying the price
now. That's OK, we "just" need to fix it :-)

> > As pointed out by Laurent, #1 doesn't work because some panel drivers
> > send DSI commands in their ->prepare() hook, and ->pre_enable() methods
> > are called in reverse order, meaning that the DRM panel bridge driver
> > would try to issue DSI commands before the DSI host controllers is ready
> > to send them. I still thing #2 is a good option.
> >
> >> So proper patch converting to double-linked list should not try to
> >> splice ExynosDSI private bridge list with with encoder's, encoder's list
> >> should be always empty, as Marek suggested.
> >
> > That's exactly what I wanted to do: make the encoder's list empty after
> > attach() and restore it to its initial state before unregistering
> > the bridge, except I forgot that list_splice() doesn't call
> > INIT_LIST_HEAD(). It's still not clear to me why replacing the
> > list_splice() call by a list_splice_init() didn't work.
> > Also note that calling INIT_LIST_HEAD() only works if you have one
> > bridge in the chain, so if we go for that option we need a comment
> > explaining the limitations of this approach.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-27 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-03 14:15 [PATCH v4 00/11] drm: Add support for bus-format negotiation Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] drm/bridge: Rename bridge helpers targeting a bridge chain Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] drm/bridge: Introduce drm_bridge_get_next_bridge() Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] drm: Stop accessing encoder->bridge directly Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] drm/bridge: Make the bridge chain a double-linked list Boris Brezillon
2019-12-16 13:54   ` Marek Szyprowski
2019-12-16 14:55     ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-16 15:02       ` Marek Szyprowski
2019-12-16 15:25         ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-23  9:55           ` Marek Szyprowski
2019-12-24  9:16             ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-12-24  9:44               ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-24  9:49                 ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-24 10:03                   ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-27 10:25                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2019-12-27 11:03                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2019-12-24 11:31                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-12-25  1:36                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-27 12:39                   ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-27  9:42                 ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-12-27 10:51                   ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2019-12-27 12:21                     ` Boris Brezillon
2020-01-01 17:13                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] drm/bridge: Add the drm_for_each_bridge_in_chain() helper Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] drm/bridge: Add the drm_bridge_get_prev_bridge() helper Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] drm/bridge: Clarify the atomic enable/disable hooks semantics Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 18:02   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-04  9:00     ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] drm/bridge: Add a drm_bridge_state object Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 18:17   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-04  9:03     ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-04  9:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-04  9:42         ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-04 10:38           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] drm/bridge: Patch atomic hooks to take a drm_bridge_state Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] drm/bridge: Add an ->atomic_check() hook Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] drm/bridge: Add the necessary bits to support bus format negotiation Boris Brezillon
2019-12-03 18:19 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] drm: Add support for bus-format negotiation Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-04  9:09   ` Boris Brezillon
2019-12-04  9:15     ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-04 13:43   ` Neil Armstrong
2019-12-09  9:43   ` Boris Brezillon

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