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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/30] Introduce core voltage scaling for NVIDIA Tegra20/30 SoCs
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 15:19:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2716c195-083a-112f-f1e5-2f6b7152a4b5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd147ab0-1304-a491-7a56-ee6199c02d32@gmail.com>

05.11.2020 18:22, Dmitry Osipenko пишет:
> 05.11.2020 12:45, Ulf Hansson пишет:
> ...
>> I need some more time to review this, but just a quick check found a
>> few potential issues...
> 
> Thank you for starting the review! I'm pretty sure it will take a couple
> revisions until all the questions will be resolved :)
> 
>> The "core-supply", that you specify as a regulator for each
>> controller's device node, is not the way we describe power domains.
>> Instead, it seems like you should register a power-domain provider
>> (with the help of genpd) and implement the ->set_performance_state()
>> callback for it. Each device node should then be hooked up to this
>> power-domain, rather than to a "core-supply". For DT bindings, please
>> have a look at Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power-domain.yaml
>> and Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt.
>>
>> In regards to the "sync state" problem (preventing to change
>> performance states until all consumers have been attached), this can
>> then be managed by the genpd provider driver instead.
> 
> I'll need to take a closer look at GENPD, thank you for the suggestion.
> 
> Sounds like a software GENPD driver which manages clocks and voltages
> could be a good idea, but it also could be an unnecessary
> over-engineering. Let's see..
> 

Hello Ulf and all,

I took a detailed look at the GENPD and tried to implement it. Here is
what was found:

1. GENPD framework doesn't aggregate performance requests from the
attached devices. This means that if deviceA requests performance state
10 and then deviceB requests state 3, then framework will set domain's
state to 3 instead of 10.

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.10-rc2/source/drivers/base/power/domain.c#L376

2. GENPD framework has a sync() callback in the genpd.domain structure,
but this callback isn't allowed to be used by the GENPD implementation.
The GENPD framework always overrides that callback for its own needs.
Hence GENPD doesn't allow to solve the bootstrapping
state-synchronization problem in a nice way.

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.10-rc2/source/drivers/base/power/domain.c#L2606

3. Tegra doesn't have a dedicated hardware power-controller for the core
domain, instead there is only an external voltage regulator. Hence we
will need to create a phony device-tree node for the virtual power
domain, which is probably a wrong thing to do.

===

Perhaps it should be possible to create some hacks to work around
bullets 2 and 3 in order to achieve what we need for DVFS on Tegra, but
bullet 1 isn't solvable without changing how the GENPD core works.

Altogether, the GENPD in its current form is a wrong abstraction for a
system-wide DVFS in a case where multiple devices share power domain and
this domain is a voltage regulator. The regulator framework is the
correct abstraction in this case for today.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-08 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 23:43 [PATCH v1 00/30] Introduce core voltage scaling for NVIDIA Tegra20/30 SoCs Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:43 ` [PATCH v1 01/30] dt-bindings: host1x: Document OPP and voltage regulator properties Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 18:57   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-11 11:45   ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-04 23:43 ` [PATCH v1 02/30] dt-bindings: mmc: tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 18:58   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 03/30] dt-bindings: pwm: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 19:00   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 04/30] media: dt: bindings: tegra-vde: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 19:01   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 05/30] dt-binding: usb: ci-hdrc-usb2: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 19:01   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 06/30] dt-bindings: usb: tegra-ehci: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09 19:01   ` Rob Herring
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 07/30] soc/tegra: Add sync state API Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-10 20:47   ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-10 21:22     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-10 21:32       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 08/30] soc/tegra: regulators: Support Tegra SoC device " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 09/30] soc/tegra: regulators: Fix lockup when voltage-spread is out of range Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 10/30] regulator: Allow skipping disabled regulators in regulator_check_consumers() Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 11/30] drm/tegra: dc: Support OPP and SoC core voltage scaling Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-10 20:29   ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-10 20:32     ` Mark Brown
2020-11-10 21:23       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-11 11:55         ` Mark Brown
2020-11-12 16:59           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-12 17:16             ` Mark Brown
2020-11-12 19:16               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-12 20:01                 ` Mark Brown
2020-11-12 22:37                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-13 14:29                     ` Mark Brown
2020-11-13 15:55                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-13 16:15                         ` Mark Brown
2020-11-13 17:13                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-13 17:28                             ` Mark Brown
2020-11-15 17:42                               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-16 13:33                                 ` Mark Brown
2020-11-19 14:22                                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-19 15:19                                     ` Mark Brown
2020-11-13 17:30                             ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-10 21:17     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-10 21:50     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-11  9:28     ` Dan Carpenter
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 12/30] drm/tegra: gr2d: Correct swapped device-tree compatibles Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 13/30] drm/tegra: gr2d: Support OPP and SoC core voltage scaling Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 14/30] drm/tegra: gr3d: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 15/30] drm/tegra: hdmi: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 16/30] gpu: host1x: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 17/30] mmc: sdhci-tegra: Support OPP and " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-05  9:58   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-05 14:18     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-06  6:15       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-06 13:17         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-06 13:41           ` Frank Lee
2020-11-09  5:00             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-09  5:08               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09  5:10                 ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-09  5:19                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09  5:35                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-09  5:44                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09  5:53                         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-09 11:20                           ` Frank Lee
2020-12-22  8:54                             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 18/30] pwm: tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-10 20:50   ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-10 21:17     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 19/30] media: staging: tegra-vde: Support OPP and SoC " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 20/30] usb: chipidea: tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 21/30] usb: host: ehci-tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-05 16:07   ` Alan Stern
2020-11-05 17:54     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-05 18:02     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 22/30] memory: tegra20-emc: Support Tegra SoC device state syncing Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 23/30] memory: tegra30-emc: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 24/30] ARM: tegra: Add OPP tables for Tegra20 peripheral devices Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 25/30] ARM: tegra: Add OPP tables for Tegra30 " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 26/30] ARM: tegra: ventana: Add voltage supplies to DVFS-capable devices Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 27/30] ARM: tegra: paz00: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 28/30] ARM: tegra: acer-a500: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 29/30] ARM: tegra: cardhu-a04: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-04 23:44 ` [PATCH v1 30/30] ARM: tegra: nexus7: " Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-05  1:45 ` [PATCH v1 00/30] Introduce core voltage scaling for NVIDIA Tegra20/30 SoCs Michał Mirosław
2020-11-05 13:57   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-05  9:45 ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-05 10:06   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-05 10:34     ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-05 10:40       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-05 10:56         ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-05 11:13           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-05 12:52             ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-05 15:22   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-08 12:19     ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2020-11-09  4:43       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-09  4:47         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09  5:10           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-09  5:12             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-11-11 11:38       ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-12 19:57         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-12 20:43           ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-12 22:14             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-13 14:45               ` Ulf Hansson
2020-11-13 16:00                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-11-13 16:35               ` Thierry Reding
2020-11-15 16:29                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found] ` <160683107675.35139.13466076210885462180.b4-ty@kernel.org>
2020-12-01 14:17   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-12-01 14:34     ` Mark Brown
2020-12-01 14:44       ` Dmitry Osipenko

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