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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com>
Cc: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jagan Teki <jagan@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Schultz <d.schultz@phytec.de>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFCv1 0/8] RK3399 clean shutdown issue
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:58:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ac4ff0-5c32-9bb3-1547-ec7ac80bf38d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMdYzYoZY5gau=DGtPhk9CPV_WcyM4wjR9o+rPyaQfOzoy2Y=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/12/2019 1:37 pm, Peter Geis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:29 AM Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 06/12/2019 6:45 pm, Anand Moon wrote:
>>> Most of the RK3399 SBC boards do not perform clean
>>> shutdown and clean reboot.
>>
>> FWIW reboot problems on RK3399 have been tracked down to issues in
>> upstream ATF, and are unrelated to the PMIC.
>>
>>> These patches try to help resolve the issue with proper
>>> shutdown by turning off the PMIC.
>>
>> As mentioned elsewhere[1], although this is what the BSP kernel seems to
>> do, and in practice it's unlikely to matter for the majority of devboard
>> users like you and me, I still feel a bit uncomfortable with this
>> solution for systems using ATF as in principle the secure world might
>> want to know about orderly shutdowns, and this effectively makes every
>> shutdown an unexpected power loss from secure software's point of view.
>>
>> Robin.
> 
> Since ATF is operating completely in volatile memory, and shouldn't be
> touching hardware once it passes off control to the kernel anyways,
> what is the harm of pulling the rug out from under it?
> If this idea is to prevent issues in the future, such as if ATF does
> gain the ability to preempt hardware control, then at that time ATF
> will need to be able to handle actually powering off devices using the
> same functionality.

It's not ATF itself I'm concerned about, but arbitrary Secure EL1 
payloads. In theory, a TEE might want to do something like cycle keys or 
log events in a TPM (or just encrypted in an external SPI flash), or 
scrub secure DRAM for cold boot protection. I'm pretty sure none of us 
are running such a thing on our boards today, but an upstream solution 
really wants to be robust for the general case.

> But as we discussed previously, ATF doesn't have this capability, so
> in this case any board without a dedicated power-off gpio will be
> unable to power off at all.
> Also it seems that giving ATF this functionality, with the current
> state of ATF, would be cost prohibitive.
> 
> I personally feel that allowing the kernel to do this is a solution to
> the problem we have now.

Sure - I do like your cool idea of using a custom reboot reason to 
handle a 'trusted' poweroff in the U-Boot SPL - but in the meantime 
anything would be a practical improvement over the current situation. I 
reckon this other patch[1] (this seems to be a popular issue all of a 
sudden!) looks like the neatest interim step.

Robin.

[1] 
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rockchip/2019-December/028245.html

>>> For reference
>>> RK805 PMCI data sheet:
>>> [0] http://rockchip.fr/RK805%20datasheet%20V1.3.pdf
>>> RK808 PMIC data sheet:
>>> [1] http://rockchip.fr/RK808%20datasheet%20V1.4.pdf
>>> RK817 PMIC data sheet:
>>> [2] http://rockchip.fr/RK817%20datasheet%20V1.01.pdf
>>> RK818 PMIC data sheet:
>>> [3] http://rockchip.fr/RK818%20datasheet%20V1.0.pdf
>>>
>>> Reboot issue:
>>> My guess is that we need to some proper sequence of
>>> setting to PMCI to perform clean.
>>>
>>> If you have any input please share them.
>>>
>>> Tested on SBC
>>> Rock960 Model A
>>> Odroid N1
>>> Rock64
>>>
>>> -Anand Moon
>>>
>>> Anand Moon (8):
>>>     mfd: rk808: Refactor shutdown functions
>>>     mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK805 PMIC shutdown
>>>     mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK808 PMIC shutdown
>>>     mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK818 PMIC shutdown
>>>     mfd: rk808: cleanup unused function pointer
>>>     mfd: rk808: use common syscore for all PMCI for clean shutdown
>>>     arm64: rockchip: drop unused field from rk8xx i2c node
>>>     arm: rockchip: drop unused field from rk8xx i2c node
>>>
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3036-kylin.dts            |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3188-px3-evb.dts          |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-evb-rk808.dts        |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-phycore-som.dtsi     |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-popmetal.dts         |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-tinker.dtsi          |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron.dtsi          |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-vyasa.dts            |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rv1108-elgin-r1.dts         |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm/boot/dts/rv1108-evb.dts              |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/px30-evb.dts     |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-a1.dts    |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-evb.dts   |   1 -
>>>    .../arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-roc-cc.dts |   1 -
>>>    .../arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-rock64.dts |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-geekbox.dts      |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-lion.dtsi |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-px5-evb.dts      |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-firefly.dts      |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-hugsun-x99.dts   |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-khadas-edge.dtsi |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-leez-p710.dts    |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-nanopi4.dtsi     |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-orangepi.dts     |   1 -
>>>    arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-puma.dtsi |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-roc-pc.dtsi      |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rock-pi-4.dts    |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rock960.dtsi     |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64.dts    |   1 -
>>>    .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-sapphire.dtsi    |   1 -
>>>    drivers/mfd/rk808.c                           | 144 +++++-------------
>>>    include/linux/mfd/rk808.h                     |   2 -
>>>    32 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 134 deletions(-)
>>>
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-09 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-06 18:45 [RFCv1 0/8] RK3399 clean shutdown issue Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 1/8] mfd: rk808: Refactor shutdown functions Anand Moon
2019-12-16 11:11   ` Lee Jones
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 2/8] mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK805 PMIC shutdown Anand Moon
2019-12-09 13:34   ` Robin Murphy
2019-12-09 15:38     ` Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 3/8] mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK808 " Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 4/8] mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK818 " Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 5/8] mfd: rk808: cleanup unused function pointer Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 6/8] mfd: rk808: use common syscore for all PMCI for clean shutdown Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 7/8] arm64: rockchip: drop unused field from rk8xx i2c node Anand Moon
2019-12-06 18:45 ` [RFCv1 8/8] arm: " Anand Moon
2019-12-06 22:32 ` [RFCv1 0/8] RK3399 clean shutdown issue Heiko Stuebner
2019-12-07  5:07   ` Anand Moon
2019-12-07 11:45     ` Heiko Stuebner
2019-12-09 13:29 ` Robin Murphy
2019-12-09 13:37   ` Peter Geis
2019-12-09 13:53     ` Heiko Stübner
2019-12-09 13:58     ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2019-12-09 14:51     ` Tobias Schramm
2019-12-09 14:56   ` Anand Moon

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