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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Cc: peter@bikeshed.quignogs.org.uk,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/1] Compactly make code examples into literal blocks
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:41:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200327104126.667b5d5b@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imiqghop.fsf@intel.com>

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:28:54 +0200
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> IMHO the real problem is kernel-doc doing too much preprocessing on the
> input, preventing us from doing what would be the sensible thing in
> rst. The more we try to fix the problem by adding more kernel-doc
> processing, the further we dig ourselves into this hole.
> 
> If kernel-doc didn't have its own notion of section headers, such as
> "example:", we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. We could just
> use the usual rst construct; "example::" followed by an indented block.
> 
> I'm not going to stand in the way of the patch, but I'm telling you,
> this is going to get harder, not easier, on this path.

I agree with you in principle.  The problem, of course, is that this is a
legacy gift from before the RST days and it will be hard to change.

A quick grep shows that the pattern:

	* Example:

appears nearly 100 times in current kernels.  It is not inconceivable to
make a push to get rid of all of those, turning them into ordinary RST
syntax - especially since not all of those are actually kerneldoc
comments.

The same quick grep says that "returns?:" appears about 10,000 times.
*That* will be painful to change, and I can only imagine that some
resistance would have to be overcome at some point.

So what do folks think we should do? :)

I want to ponder on this for a bit.  Peter, that may mean that I hold this
patch past the 5.7 merge window, which perhaps makes sense at this point
anyway, sorry.  But I really would like to push things into a direction
that moves us away from gnarly perl hacks and toward something more
maintainable in the long term.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-27 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-11 19:22 [PATCH 0/1] Format kerneldoc code snippets as literal block peter
2020-03-11 19:22 ` [PATCH 1/1] Added double colons and blank lines within kerneldoc to format code snippets as ReST literal blocks peter
2020-03-11 19:30   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-03-26 19:16     ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Compactly make code examples into " peter
2020-03-26 19:16       ` [PATCH v2 1/1] A compact idiom to add code examples in kerneldoc comments peter
2020-03-26 19:29         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-26 19:36           ` Peter Lister
2020-03-26 19:51           ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Compactly make code examples into literal blocks peter
2020-03-26 19:51             ` [PATCH v3 1/1] A compact idiom to add code examples in kerneldoc comments peter
2020-03-26 19:54               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-27  6:32               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-27 11:28             ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Compactly make code examples into literal blocks Jani Nikula
2020-03-27 16:41               ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2020-03-27 16:50                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-27 17:11                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-03-27 17:35                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-31 11:22                       ` Jani Nikula
2020-03-31 10:50                   ` Jani Nikula
2020-03-30 22:29                 ` Peter Lister
2020-03-30 22:32                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-03-31 11:54                   ` Jani Nikula

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