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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vasiliy Khoruzhick <vasilykh@arista.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hung_task: Allow printing warnings every check interval
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 19:38:13 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2964b430-63d6-e172-84e2-cb269cf43443@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190724170249.9644-1-dima@arista.com>

On 2019/07/25 2:02, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
> Hung task detector has one timeout and has two associated actions on it:
> - issuing warnings with names and stacks of blocked tasks
> - panic()
> 
> We want switches to panic (and reboot) if there's a task
> in uninterruptible sleep for some minutes - at that moment something
> ugly has happened and the box needs a reboot.
> But we also want to detect conditions that are "out of range"
> or approaching the point of failure. Under such conditions we want
> to issue an "early warning" of an impending failure, minutes before
> the switch is going to panic.

Can't we do it by extending sysctl_hung_task_panic to accept values larger
than 1, and decrease by one when at least one thread was reported by each
check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks() check, and call panic() when
sysctl_hung_task_panic reached to 0 (or maybe 1 is simpler) ?

Hmm, might have the same problem regarding how/when to reset the counter.
If some userspace process can reset the counter, such process can trigger
SysRq-c when some period expired...

> It seems rather easy to add printing tasks and their stacks for
> notification and debugging purposes into hung task detector without
> complicating the code or major cost (prints are with KERN_INFO loglevel
> and so don't go on console, only into dmesg log).

Well, I don't think so. Might be noisy for systems without "quiet" kernel
command line option, and we can't pass KERN_DEBUG to e.g. sched_show_task()...


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-25 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24 17:02 [PATCH] hung_task: Allow printing warnings every check interval Dmitry Safonov
2019-07-25 10:38 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2019-07-25 14:25   ` Dmitry Safonov
2019-07-26 11:29     ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-26 13:28       ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-07-26 13:58         ` Dmitry Safonov

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