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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:46:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2dcea97c-7b98-1ad2-d2ba-e7f7d77dc855@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201118172958.5b014a44@lwn.net>

Am 19.11.20 um 01:29 schrieb Jonathan Corbet:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:13:52 +0100
> Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:

>   - Collapse the whole thing down to a patch adding reporting-bugs-v2.rst
>     (or some suitable name).  I do wonder if it should also move to the
>     process manual as part of this; not only admins will report bugs.

After a night's sleep and Randy's comment I for now settled on
Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst

>   - Add a comment at the top saying it's a proposed replacement and
>     soliciting comments.  [...]
Struggled a bit to find the right words, but I think this should work:

```
.. important::

    This document is being prepared to replace 
Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst. The main work is done and 
you are already free to follow its instructions when reporting issues to 
the Linux kernel developers. But keep in mind, below text still needs a 
few finishing touches and review. It was merged to the Linux kernel 
sources at this stage to make this process easier and increase the 
text's visibility.

    Any improvements for the text or other feedback is thus very much 
welcome. Please send it to 'Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>' and 
'Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>', ideally with 'Linux kernel mailing 
list (LKML) <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>' and the 'Linux Kernel 
Documentation List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>' in CC.

    Areas in the text that still need work or discussion contain a hint 
like this which point out the remaining issues; all of them start with 
the word "FIXME" to make them easy to find.
```

Randy let me know if you want to be mentioned there, too.

>   - In a separate patch you could add a comment to the existing document
>     pointing to the new one as the true source of wisdom.

This is what I plan to add:

```
.. note::

    Instead of reading below text consider reading this document 
instead: Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst. It's intended 
to replace below text in the near future, as it's easier to grasp and 
more straight forward; it also provides way more details and more 
accurately describes the steps currently needed when reporting bugs to 
the Linux developers.
```

Ciao, Thorsten

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 17:58 [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/26] docs: reporting-bugs: temporary markers for licensing and diff reasons Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/26] docs: reporting-bugs: Create a TLDR how to report issues Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide on " Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide for issues in stable & longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/26] docs: reporting-bugs: begin reference section providing details Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out we only care about fresh vanilla kernels Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users classify their issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers check the taint flag Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:05   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19 10:26     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/26] docs: reporting-bugs: help users find the proper place for their report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to look for existing reports Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to back up their data Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out the environment might be causing issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make users write notes, one for each issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers test a fresh kernel Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users check taint status again Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain options if reproducing on mainline fails Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users optimize their notes Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/26] docs: reporting-bugs: decode failure messages [need help!] Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/26] docs: reporting-bugs: instructions for handling regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details on writing and sending the report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:17   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19  9:42     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain what users should do once the report is out Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details for issues specific to stable and longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain why users might get neither reply nor fix Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain things could be easier Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/26] docs: reporting-bugs: add SPDX tag and license hint, remove markers Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-13 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-13 22:47   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-15 10:13   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:29     ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19 12:29       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19 16:20         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-20 21:59         ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-20 10:46       ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2020-11-20 16:27         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-20 21:58         ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-22  5:33           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-22  5:42             ` Randy Dunlap

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