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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/10] percpu: Wire up cmpxchg128
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2023 13:19:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30e43e0b-4d16-433f-845d-dd026adfb252@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+DjULnIxcPU/rtp@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Feb 6, 2023, at 12:24, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2023 at 06:25:04PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

>> Unless I have misunderstood what you are doing, my concerns are
>> still the same:
>> 
>> >  #define this_cpu_cmpxchg(pcp, oval, nval) \
>> > -	__pcpu_size_call_return2(this_cpu_cmpxchg_, pcp, oval, nval)
>> > +	__pcpu_size16_call_return2(this_cpu_cmpxchg_, pcp, oval, nval)
>> >  #define this_cpu_cmpxchg_double(pcp1, pcp2, oval1, oval2, nval1, 
>> > nval2) \
>> >  	__pcpu_double_call_return_bool(this_cpu_cmpxchg_double_, pcp1, pcp2, 
>> > oval1, oval2, nval1, nval2)
>> 
>> Having a variable-length this_cpu_cmpxchg() that turns into cmpxchg128()
>> and cmpxchg64() even on CPUs where this traps (!X86_FEATURE_CX16) seems
>> like a bad design to me.
>> 
>> I would much prefer fixed-length this_cpu_cmpxchg64()/this_cpu_cmpxchg128()
>> calls that never trap but fall back to the generic version on CPUs that
>> are lacking the atomics.
>
> You're thinking acidental usage etc..? Lemme see what I can do.

I wouldn't even call it accidental when the dependency is so subtle:

Having to call system_has_cmpxchg64() beforce calling cmpxchg64()
is already somewhat awkward but has some logic to it. Having to
call system_has_cmpxchg64()/system_has_cmpxchg128() before calling
this_cpu_cmpxchg() depending on the argument size on architectures
that sometimes have cmpxchg128 but not on architectures that always
have it or that never have it makes it useless as an abstraction.

     Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-02 14:50 [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce cmpxchg128() -- aka. the demise of cmpxchg_double() Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] cyrpto/b128ops: Remove struct u128 Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 20:21   ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-02-03  1:06   ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] types: Introduce [us]128 Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-03  3:37   ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] arch: Introduce arch_{,try_}_cmpxchg128{,_local}() Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 17:04   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-02-03 16:52   ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] instrumentation: Wire up cmpxchg128() Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-03 16:55   ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] percpu: Wire up cmpxchg128 Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 17:05   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-02-03 17:02   ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-03 17:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-06 11:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-06 12:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-06 12:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-06 13:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-06 12:19       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] x86,amd_iommu: Replace cmpxchg_double() Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] x86,intel_iommu: " Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-03  2:51   ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] slub: " Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-08 13:31   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] arch: Remove cmpxchg_double Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-08 13:44   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-02-02 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] s390/cpum_sf: Convert to cmpxchg128() Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 17:05   ` Heiko Carstens
2023-02-02 19:39 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce cmpxchg128() -- aka. the demise of cmpxchg_double() Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 22:45   ` David Laight

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