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From: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/8] Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 12:47:08 -0800
Message-ID: <CAGETcx9j8YzcJa6-s4cuyTpwFsUAAaBD6H9mf1wfzafb_x+5tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXo+ShM3Ct2OSCscJwaLJ4rbytpA14=dR5q+3F9kJjNfw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:41 AM Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Saravana,
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:26 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
> > There are a lot of devices/drivers where they never have a struct device
> > created for them or the driver initializes the hardware without ever
> > binding to the struct device.
> >
> > This series is intended to avoid any boot regressions due to such
> > devices/drivers when fw_devlink=on and also address the handling of
> > optional suppliers.
>
> Thanks for your series!
>
> > Patch 5 sets up a generic API to handle drivers that never bind with
> > their devices.
> >
> > Patch 6 through 8 update different frameworks to use the new API.
>
> >   driver core: fw_devlink: Handle suppliers that don't use driver core
> >   irqdomain: Mark fwnodes when their irqdomain is added/removed
> >   PM: domains: Mark fwnodes when their powerdomain is added/removed
> >   clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider is added/removed
>
> I take it this is an automatic alternative for letting drivers set the
> OF_POPULATED flag manually?

The frameworks can still continue setting it to avoid creating dead
"struct devices" that'll never be used. This new flag handles cases
where the device is already created, but will never bind to a driver.
So, they are meant to do slightly different things, but the end result
is removing the need for individual drivers to set OF_POPULATED (and
Rob hates that too).

> Is this actually safe?  It's not uncommon for a driver to register
> multiple providers, sometimes even of different types (clock, genpd,
> irq, reset[1], ...).

This flag is just an indication that the fwnode has been initialized
by a driver. It's okay if the flag gets set multiple times when a
driver is registering with multiple frameworks. It's also okay if the
flag is cleared multiple times as the driver is uninitializing the
hardware (although, this is very unlikely for drivers that don't use
device-driver model). When we actually try to create device links, we
just check if this happened without a driver actually binding to this
device. There's no "probing" race because the "status" I check goes
through NO_DRIVER -> PROBING -(registering happens)-> BOUND ->
UNBINDING -(deregistering happens) -> NO_DRIVER. So if the fwnode flag
is getting set as part of the driver's probe function, the "status"
value will never be NO_DRIVER.

> Can you be sure consumer drivers do not start probing while their
> dependency is still busy registering providers?

The code only acts on that flag when trying to create device links
from the consumer to the supplier. This is just a way to tell "hey,
don't bother creating a device link, this supplier will never bind".
So it just avoids blocking the consumer. Doesn't really make the
consumers probe earlier than they would have.

> [1] Which brings my attention to the fact that devlink does not consider
>     "resets" properties yet.
>

Yeah, we can add that and other bindings as we go.

-Saravana

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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20210205222651eucas1p28ef87073dea33c1c5224c14aa203bec5@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-02-05 22:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 1/8] driver core: fw_devlink: Detect supplier devices that will never be added Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 2/8] of: property: Don't add links to absent suppliers Saravana Kannan
2021-02-09 21:25     ` Rob Herring
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 3/8] driver core: Add fw_devlink.strict kernel param Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 4/8] of: property: Add fw_devlink support for optional properties Saravana Kannan
2021-02-09 21:33     ` Rob Herring
2021-02-09 21:54       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  8:25         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 5/8] driver core: fw_devlink: Handle suppliers that don't use driver core Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 6/8] irqdomain: Mark fwnodes when their irqdomain is added/removed Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 7/8] PM: domains: Mark fwnodes when their powerdomain " Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26   ` [PATCH v4 8/8] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider " Saravana Kannan
2021-02-08 15:38     ` Rob Herring
2021-02-08 23:34       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 11:44     ` [PATCH] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider is added Tudor Ambarus
2021-02-10 11:44       ` Tudor Ambarus
2021-02-11 13:00         ` Greg KH
2021-02-13  0:37           ` Stephen Boyd
     [not found]         ` <CGME20210325133159eucas1p297b769beb681743fb32d362a86cc6e3e@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-03-25 13:31           ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-03-25 15:47             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-03-25 18:25             ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-03-26 18:13               ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-26 18:29                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                   ` <161705310317.3012082.15148238105608149214@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-03-29 23:28                     ` Saravana Kannan
     [not found]                       ` <161706920822.3012082.10047587064612237296@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-03-30  6:58                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                           ` <161715734080.2260335.881350237641202575@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-03-31  7:05                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                               ` <161721871083.2260335.2392646934517115770@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-04-05 11:04                                 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-04-21  3:26         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-04-21  7:00           ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 19:13       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-03-30 15:42       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-30 16:26         ` Saravana Kannan
     [not found]     ` <161317679292.1254594.15797939257637374295@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-02-14 21:15       ` [PATCH v4 8/8] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider is added/removed Saravana Kannan
2021-02-06  2:45   ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-02-06 19:41   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-06 20:47     ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2021-02-08  8:40   ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-02-08 23:57     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10  8:19   ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-02-10  8:54     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 10:02       ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-02-10 19:14         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 13:00   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-11 13:05     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-12  2:59     ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-12  8:14       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-12 20:57         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-15 12:38       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 21:26         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16  8:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-16 18:48             ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16 20:31               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-17 23:57                 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-25  9:21                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 15:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 21:57         ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16 12:58           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 11:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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