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From: Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9] pgo: add clang's Profile Guided Optimization infrastructure
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:25:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGG=3QXjD1DQjACu=CQQSP=whue-14Pw8FcNcXrJZfLC_E+y9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMTn9yjuemKFLbws@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 9:59 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 02:17:04PM -0700, Bill Wendling wrote:
> > From: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
> >
> > Enable the use of clang's Profile-Guided Optimization[1]. To generate a
> > profile, the kernel is instrumented with PGO counters, a representative
> > workload is run, and the raw profile data is collected from
> > /sys/kernel/debug/pgo/profraw.
> >
> > The raw profile data must be processed by clang's "llvm-profdata" tool
> > before it can be used during recompilation:
> >
> >   $ cp /sys/kernel/debug/pgo/profraw vmlinux.profraw
> >   $ llvm-profdata merge --output=vmlinux.profdata vmlinux.profraw
> >
> > Multiple raw profiles may be merged during this step.
> >
> > The data can now be used by the compiler:
> >
> >   $ make LLVM=1 KCFLAGS=-fprofile-use=vmlinux.profdata ...
> >
> > This initial submission is restricted to x86, as that's the platform we
> > know works. This restriction can be lifted once other platforms have
> > been verified to work with PGO.
>
> *sigh*, and not a single x86 person on Cc, how nice :-/
>
This tool is generic and, despite the fact that it's first enabled for
x86, it contains no x86-specific code. The reason we're restricting it
to x86 is because it's the platform we tested on.

> > Note that this method of profiling the kernel is clang-native, unlike
> > the clang support in kernel/gcov.
> >
> > [1] https://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html#profile-guided-optimization
>
> Also, and I don't see this answered *anywhere*, why are you not using
> perf for this? Your link even mentions Sampling Profilers (and I happen
> to know there's been significant effort to make perf output work as
> input for the PGO passes of the various compilers).
>
Instruction-based (non-sampling) profiling gives us a better
context-sensitive profile, making PGO more impactful. It's also useful
for coverage whereas sampling profiles cannot.

> > Signed-off-by: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>
> > Tested-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/dev-tools/index.rst     |   1 +
> >  Documentation/dev-tools/pgo.rst       | 127 +++++++++
> >  MAINTAINERS                           |   9 +
> >  Makefile                              |   3 +
> >  arch/Kconfig                          |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/Kconfig                      |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/boot/Makefile                |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/boot/compressed/Makefile     |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/crypto/Makefile              |   4 +
> >  arch/x86/entry/vdso/Makefile          |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S         |   2 +
> >  arch/x86/platform/efi/Makefile        |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/purgatory/Makefile           |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/realmode/rm/Makefile         |   1 +
> >  arch/x86/um/vdso/Makefile             |   1 +
> >  drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/Makefile |   1 +
> >  include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h     |  34 +++
> >  kernel/Makefile                       |   1 +
> >  kernel/pgo/Kconfig                    |  35 +++
> >  kernel/pgo/Makefile                   |   5 +
> >  kernel/pgo/fs.c                       | 389 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  kernel/pgo/instrument.c               | 189 +++++++++++++
> >  kernel/pgo/pgo.h                      | 203 ++++++++++++++
> >  scripts/Makefile.lib                  |  10 +
> >  24 files changed, 1022 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/dev-tools/pgo.rst
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/pgo/Kconfig
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/pgo/Makefile
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/pgo/fs.c
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/pgo/instrument.c
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/pgo/pgo.h
>
> > --- a/Makefile
> > +++ b/Makefile
> > @@ -660,6 +660,9 @@ endif # KBUILD_EXTMOD
> >  # Defaults to vmlinux, but the arch makefile usually adds further targets
> >  all: vmlinux
> >
> > +CFLAGS_PGO_CLANG := -fprofile-generate
> > +export CFLAGS_PGO_CLANG
> > +
> >  CFLAGS_GCOV  := -fprofile-arcs -ftest-coverage \
> >       $(call cc-option,-fno-tree-loop-im) \
> >       $(call cc-disable-warning,maybe-uninitialized,)
>
> And which of the many flags in noinstr disables this?
>
These flags aren't used with PGO. So there's no need to disable them.

> Basically I would like to NAK this whole thing until someone can
> adequately explain the interaction with noinstr and why we need those
> many lines of kernel code and can't simply use perf for this.

-bw

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-12 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-11  8:18 [PATCH] pgo: add clang's Profile Guided Optimization infrastructure Bill Wendling
2021-01-11  8:39 ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-11  8:42   ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-11  9:17   ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-11  9:57     ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-11 18:28       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-01-11 20:12 ` Fangrui Song
2021-01-11 20:23   ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-11 20:31     ` Fangrui Song
2021-01-12  0:37       ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-12  0:44         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-01-11 21:04 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-01-11 21:17   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-11 21:32     ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-12  5:14 ` [PATCH v2] " Bill Wendling
2021-01-12  5:17   ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-12  5:31   ` [PATCH v3] " Bill Wendling
     [not found]     ` <202101121755.pyYoRozB-lkp@intel.com>
2021-01-12 17:22       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-01-13  6:19     ` [PATCH v4] " Bill Wendling
2021-01-13 20:55       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-01-13 21:59         ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-14  4:07         ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-16  0:01           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-16  0:13             ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-16  4:30               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-16  5:07               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-16  5:18                 ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-18  0:57               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-13 23:01       ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-16  9:43       ` [PATCH v5] " Bill Wendling
2021-01-16 17:38         ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-16 18:36           ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-16 20:23           ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-17 10:44             ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-17 10:53               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-17 11:23                 ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-17 11:42                   ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-17 11:58                     ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]                       ` <CA+icZUXmn15w=kSq2CZzQD5JggJw_9AEam=Sz13M0KpJ68MWZg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-17 17:42                         ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-17 20:34                           ` Bill Wendling
     [not found]                             ` <CA+icZUU1HihUFaEHzF69+01+Picg8aq6HAqHupxiRqyDGJ=Mpw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                               ` <CA+icZUUuzA5JEXyVzKbVX+T3xeOdRAU6-mntbo+VwwTxqmN7LA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-18  2:32                                 ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-18 12:39                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-18 17:26                                     ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-18 21:56                                       ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-18 23:29                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-21  2:03                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-21 22:44                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  1:42                                           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-22  1:49                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  1:52                                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-20  1:02         ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-21  0:51         ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-21  8:24           ` Bill Wendling
2021-01-21  8:24         ` [PATCH v6] " Bill Wendling
2021-01-21 10:34           ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  1:44             ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-22  1:51               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  0:14           ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  0:58             ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  1:29           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-22 10:11           ` [PATCH v7] " Bill Wendling
2021-01-22 11:31             ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22 18:41             ` Nick Desaulniers
     [not found]               ` <CA+icZUU=XfwqMcXYonQKcD4QgqTBW-mA+d_84b7cU2R3HYPOSQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-28 21:12                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-28 21:19                   ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-28 21:24                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-28 21:39                       ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-29  7:43               ` Sedat Dilek
2021-01-29 21:48                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-02-10 23:25             ` Bill Wendling
2021-02-22 21:52               ` Bill Wendling
2021-02-26 22:20             ` [PATCH v8] " Bill Wendling
2021-02-26 22:55               ` Bill Wendling
2021-02-28 18:52               ` Fangrui Song
2021-02-28 21:50                 ` Fangrui Song
2021-01-12 17:37   ` [PATCH v2] " Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-12 17:45     ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-01-21  2:21 ` [PATCH] " Sedat Dilek
2021-01-22  1:34   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-01-22  1:43     ` Sedat Dilek
2021-04-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v9] " Bill Wendling
2021-04-07 21:22   ` Kees Cook
2021-04-07 21:44     ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-04-07 21:47   ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-04-07 21:58     ` Bill Wendling
2021-05-19 21:37   ` Kees Cook
2021-05-22 23:51     ` Bill Wendling
2021-05-31 21:12     ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-06-01 17:31       ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-06-12 16:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-12 17:25     ` Bill Wendling [this message]
2021-06-12 18:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-12 19:10         ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-12 19:28           ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-12 20:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-12 20:56             ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-12 22:47               ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-13 18:07                 ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-14  9:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14 10:18                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14  7:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14  9:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14  9:39                 ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-14 10:44                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14 11:41                     ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-14 11:43                     ` Bill Wendling
2021-06-14 14:16                     ` Marco Elver
2021-06-14 15:26                       ` Kees Cook
2021-06-14 15:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14 16:22                           ` Kees Cook
2021-06-14 18:07                             ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-06-14 20:49                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-06-14 15:46                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-14 16:03                           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-06-12 20:20         ` Fangrui Song
2021-06-12 20:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-01 18:53 Kees Cook

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