From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBCFC433B4 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C26E6101D for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235259AbhDPQWC (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:22:02 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41024 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235239AbhDPQV7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:21:59 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb2d.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2d]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 011B1C061756; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2d.google.com with SMTP id y2so28633687ybq.13; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:21:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nCFii6aJURTER/vfLe/clZtaLhbRcW3ObBSmtuLHRng=; b=G34k3IkIwnzBMEEu+9qUraK5dQ02qIeP5EpIR1F/LZJEN7swi+5OcAJv3OIdzCWHkT ajBsfK5XFuDbxtX19Dx1EwRQMQNVmLF0P68KANot3JYXO56KT7S6pQjIKSK9tFffc7Uv TRVqxZKBtxwAFbj7rdPjyF4x5os+/RPhiR8IAEB/oUxs70Qj6IRMgy6nv/LKbCta+rGt tYwSYq8WYQNXjtyNbJ3FJhBu6vIPyZrIK/M+Rv7PO9A8gksEDp6aVeOYaB3vtX0LQtc3 NWxQRdgMLI39DABjOaaPFlZjRyqx0+Da8mXle8uyvCgJjsj5dNyiU0o5YRCxgrt9FDHQ z/Yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nCFii6aJURTER/vfLe/clZtaLhbRcW3ObBSmtuLHRng=; b=SpyjijjlSAmP+XcS6EkJwA3KZ1ii7S3s4y7ABXHIx3IQEe1N7UIX0MHtRFYtdV2Teh 28uP0eemiq7z0toE9TSiMOPuwenWPl3T1ct/usPY+vZlcUH7RZJLBz6b5uJtifVhCxN6 i8P9sTEelaujoIMnkv4tA8xbHq9dklOKZYTjVbBEAaufFV1C0mU8GD2x2wZSla5SXY11 q3L5iZMn8l5yGosgxgB7rV7GTYcan2jtKwdS0EYVQzErlS8mhxg8YGdg9zTx9HO77s5q Hk9wmroolx7LS2aKzQqIrUBbRzBcQI8Pz3KHz5ya62BQgpkHXNAyM7BKzBb9aG/rxROy j3ow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531F0Qeo4vGiEUoCoRJ/rcGqeCLdNuH2HvJG4EunQiERMxHl8ka+ 7PRsVuaAojYWmP2SY2QsNPv4EhJ4bD/Uq2FjbNo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy0Kixp3R8ObQCt6v/sL9MlswTFyXDE0CI1Ld7MwO5Tg0SWFJ801+kzVKHbmrATrM0JCfiFa59z/M50dEcsepg= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7909:: with SMTP id u9mr12483269ybc.22.1618590093378; Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:21:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210414184604.23473-1-ojeda@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: From: Miguel Ojeda Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 18:21:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Wedson Almeida Filho , Miguel Ojeda , Linus Torvalds , Greg Kroah-Hartman , rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kbuild mailing list , Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 5:43 PM Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2659.htm > > That's just not making any damn sense what so ever. That seems to be > about sprinkling abort() all over the place, which is just total > rubbish. No, it is not about that. It is semantically a no-op: N2659 is not about a safe subset of C -- it just triggered discussions about it in the reflector. The point is that we think it is important to improve C for the kernel too. We are not working on bringing Rust to the kernel "just because we want Rust", but because we believe it has a sizable amount of advantages that outweigh the costs. Cheers, Miguel