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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Evan Green <evgreen@chromium.org>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/13] module: Add printk formats to add module build ID to stacktraces
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:16:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHW1xBvOeHrAHWkK@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHV4369VJAGpfW/c@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Tue 2021-04-13 13:56:31, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 12:29:05PM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > Quoting Andy Shevchenko (2021-04-12 04:58:02)
> > > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:52:52PM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > > Let's make kernel stacktraces easier to identify by including the build
> > > > ID[1] of a module if the stacktrace is printing a symbol from a module.
> > > > This makes it simpler for developers to locate a kernel module's full
> > > > debuginfo for a particular stacktrace. Combined with
> > > > scripts/decode_stracktrace.sh, a developer can download the matching
> > > > debuginfo from a debuginfod[2] server and find the exact file and line
> > > > number for the functions plus offsets in a stacktrace that match the
> > > > module. This is especially useful for pstore crash debugging where the
> > > > kernel crashes are recorded in something like console-ramoops and the
> > > > recovery kernel/modules are different or the debuginfo doesn't exist on
> > > > the device due to space concerns (the debuginfo can be too large for
> > > > space limited devices).
> > > > 
> > > > Originally, I put this on the %pS format, but that was quickly rejected
> > > > given that %pS is used in other places such as ftrace where build IDs
> > > > aren't meaningful. There was some discussions on the list to put every
> > > > module build ID into the "Modules linked in:" section of the stacktrace
> > > > message but that quickly becomes very hard to read once you have more
> > > > than three or four modules linked in. It also provides too much
> > > > information when we don't expect each module to be traversed in a
> > > > stacktrace. Having the build ID for modules that aren't important just
> > > > makes things messy. Splitting it to multiple lines for each module
> > > > quickly explodes the number of lines printed in an oops too, possibly
> > > > wrapping the warning off the console. And finally, trying to stash away
> > > > each module used in a callstack to provide the ID of each symbol printed
> > > > is cumbersome and would require changes to each architecture to stash
> > > > away modules and return their build IDs once unwinding has completed.
> > > > 
> > > > Instead, we opt for the simpler approach of introducing new printk
> > > > formats '%pS[R]b' for "pointer symbolic backtrace with module build ID"
> > > > and '%pBb' for "pointer backtrace with module build ID" and then
> > > > updating the few places in the architecture layer where the stacktrace
> > > > is printed to use this new format.
> > > > 
> > > > Example:
> > > 
> > > Can you trim a bit the example, so we will see only important lines.
> > > In such case you may provide "before" and "after" variants.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > -     if (modname)
> > > > -             len += sprintf(buffer + len, " [%s]", modname);
> > > > +     if (modname) {
> > > > +             len += sprintf(buffer + len, " [%s", modname);
> > > 
> > > > +             /* build ID should match length of sprintf below */
> > > > +             BUILD_BUG_ON(BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX != 20);
> > > 
> > > First of all, why not static_assert() defined near to the actual macro?
> > 
> > Which macro? BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > I tried static_assert() and it didn't
> > work for me but maybe I missed something.

I guess that you wanted to use it inside macro definition:

#define VMCOREINFO_BUILD_ID(value) \
	static_assert(ARRAY_SIZE(value) == BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX); \
	vmcoreinfo_append_str("BUILD-ID=%20phN\n", value)

Instead, you should do it outside the macro:

static_assert(ARRAY_SIZE(value) == BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX);
#define VMCOREINFO_BUILD_ID(value) \
	vmcoreinfo_append_str("BUILD-ID=%20phN\n", value)

> Sounds weird. static_assert() is a good one. Check, for example, lib/vsprintf.c
> on how to use it.
> 
> > Why is static_assert()
> > preferred?

I guess that it is because it is enough and more efficient for
checks of constant values (no computation of the value).

> Because it's cleaner way to achieve it and as a bonus it can be put outside of
> the functions (be in the header or so).
> 
> > > > +             if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_STACKTRACE_BUILD_ID) && add_buildid && buildid)
> > > > +                     len += sprintf(buffer + len, " %20phN", buildid);
> > > 
> > >                         len += sprintf(buffer + len, " %*phN", BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX, buildid);
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you suggesting to use sprintf format here so that the size is part
> > of the printf? Sounds good to me. Thanks.
> 
> I prefer %20phN when the size is carved in stone (for example by
> specification), but if you are really expecting that it may be
> changed in the future, use variadic approach as I showed above.

I would consider this written in stone (last famous words ;-) and use
%20phN with the static_assert().

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-13 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-10  1:52 [PATCH v4 00/13] Add build ID to stacktraces Stephen Boyd
2021-04-10  1:52 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] module: Add printk formats to add module " Stephen Boyd
2021-04-12 11:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-04-12 19:29     ` Stephen Boyd
2021-04-13 10:56       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-04-13 15:16         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-04-13 20:10           ` Stephen Boyd
2021-04-13 22:36             ` Stephen Boyd
2021-04-13 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 22:57     ` Stephen Boyd
2021-04-15  8:53       ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-15 13:04   ` Jessica Yu
2021-04-18  1:52     ` Stephen Boyd
2021-04-19 10:34       ` Jessica Yu

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