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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	daniel@ffwll.ch, airlied@redhat.com, bskeggs@redhat.com,
	jason@jlekstrand.net, tzimmermann@suse.de, mripard@kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:19:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcbef353-f579-4e90-1c77-be36bbe61c0f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3602500f-05f5-10b8-5ec6-0a6246e2bb6b@amd.com>

On 1/18/23 16:37, Christian König wrote:
> Am 18.01.23 um 16:34 schrieb Danilo Krummrich:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> On 1/18/23 09:53, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 18.01.23 um 07:12 schrieb Danilo Krummrich:
>>>> This patch series provides a new UAPI for the Nouveau driver in 
>>>> order to
>>>> support Vulkan features, such as sparse bindings and sparse residency.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, with the DRM GPUVA manager it provides a new DRM core 
>>>> feature to
>>>> keep track of GPU virtual address (VA) mappings in a more generic way.
>>>>
>>>> The DRM GPUVA manager is indented to help drivers implement 
>>>> userspace-manageable
>>>> GPU VA spaces in reference to the Vulkan API. In order to achieve 
>>>> this goal it
>>>> serves the following purposes in this context.
>>>>
>>>>      1) Provide a dedicated range allocator to track GPU VA 
>>>> allocations and
>>>>         mappings, making use of the drm_mm range allocator.
>>>
>>> This means that the ranges are allocated by the kernel? If yes that's 
>>> a really really bad idea.
>>
>> No, it's just for keeping track of the ranges userspace has allocated.
> 
> Ok, that makes more sense.
> 
> So basically you have an IOCTL which asks kernel for a free range? Or 
> what exactly is the drm_mm used for here?

Not even that, userspace provides both the base address and the range,
the kernel really just keeps track of things. Though, writing a UAPI on
top of the GPUVA manager asking for a free range instead would be 
possible by just adding the corresponding wrapper functions to get a 
free hole.

Currently, and that's what I think I read out of your question, the main 
benefit of using drm_mm over simply stuffing the entries into a list or 
something boils down to easier collision detection and iterating 
sub-ranges of the whole VA space.

> 
> Regards,
> Christian.
> 
>>
>> - Danilo
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>      2) Generically connect GPU VA mappings to their backing 
>>>> buffers, in
>>>>         particular DRM GEM objects.
>>>>
>>>>      3) Provide a common implementation to perform more complex mapping
>>>>         operations on the GPU VA space. In particular splitting and 
>>>> merging
>>>>         of GPU VA mappings, e.g. for intersecting mapping requests 
>>>> or partial
>>>>         unmap requests.
>>>>
>>>> The new VM_BIND Nouveau UAPI build on top of the DRM GPUVA manager, 
>>>> itself
>>>> providing the following new interfaces.
>>>>
>>>>      1) Initialize a GPU VA space via the new 
>>>> DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_VM_INIT ioctl
>>>>         for UMDs to specify the portion of VA space managed by the 
>>>> kernel and
>>>>         userspace, respectively.
>>>>
>>>>      2) Allocate and free a VA space region as well as bind and 
>>>> unbind memory
>>>>         to the GPUs VA space via the new DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_VM_BIND 
>>>> ioctl.
>>>>
>>>>      3) Execute push buffers with the new DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_EXEC ioctl.
>>>>
>>>> Both, DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_VM_BIND and DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_EXEC, make use 
>>>> of the DRM
>>>> scheduler to queue jobs and support asynchronous processing with DRM 
>>>> syncobjs
>>>> as synchronization mechanism.
>>>>
>>>> By default DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_VM_BIND does synchronous processing,
>>>> DRM_IOCTL_NOUVEAU_EXEC supports asynchronous processing only.
>>>>
>>>> The new VM_BIND UAPI for Nouveau makes also use of drm_exec 
>>>> (execution context
>>>> for GEM buffers) by Christian König. Since the patch implementing 
>>>> drm_exec was
>>>> not yet merged into drm-next it is part of this series, as well as a 
>>>> small fix
>>>> for this patch, which was found while testing this series.
>>>>
>>>> This patch series is also available at [1].
>>>>
>>>> There is a Mesa NVK merge request by Dave Airlie [2] implementing the
>>>> corresponding userspace parts for this series.
>>>>
>>>> The Vulkan CTS test suite passes the sparse binding and sparse 
>>>> residency test
>>>> cases for the new UAPI together with Dave's Mesa work.
>>>>
>>>> There are also some test cases in the igt-gpu-tools project [3] for 
>>>> the new UAPI
>>>> and hence the DRM GPU VA manager. However, most of them are testing 
>>>> the DRM GPU
>>>> VA manager's logic through Nouveau's new UAPI and should be 
>>>> considered just as
>>>> helper for implementation.
>>>>
>>>> However, I absolutely intend to change those test cases to proper 
>>>> kunit test
>>>> cases for the DRM GPUVA manager, once and if we agree on it's 
>>>> usefulness and
>>>> design.
>>>>
>>>> [1] 
>>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/nouvelles/kernel/-/tree/new-uapi-drm-next /
>>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/nouvelles/kernel/-/merge_requests/1
>>>> [2] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/nouveau/mesa/-/merge_requests/150/
>>>> [3] 
>>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/dakr/igt-gpu-tools/-/tree/wip_nouveau_vm_bind
>>>>
>>>> I also want to give credit to Dave Airlie, who contributed a lot of 
>>>> ideas to
>>>> this patch series.
>>>>
>>>> Christian König (1):
>>>>    drm: execution context for GEM buffers
>>>>
>>>> Danilo Krummrich (13):
>>>>    drm/exec: fix memory leak in drm_exec_prepare_obj()
>>>>    drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings
>>>>    drm: debugfs: provide infrastructure to dump a DRM GPU VA space
>>>>    drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces
>>>>    drm/nouveau: get vmm via nouveau_cli_vmm()
>>>>    drm/nouveau: bo: initialize GEM GPU VA interface
>>>>    drm/nouveau: move usercopy helpers to nouveau_drv.h
>>>>    drm/nouveau: fence: fail to emit when fence context is killed
>>>>    drm/nouveau: chan: provide nouveau_channel_kill()
>>>>    drm/nouveau: nvkm/vmm: implement raw ops to manage uvmm
>>>>    drm/nouveau: implement uvmm for user mode bindings
>>>>    drm/nouveau: implement new VM_BIND UAPI
>>>>    drm/nouveau: debugfs: implement DRM GPU VA debugfs
>>>>
>>>>   Documentation/gpu/driver-uapi.rst             |   11 +
>>>>   Documentation/gpu/drm-mm.rst                  |   43 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig                       |    6 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/Makefile                      |    3 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/Kconfig            |    1 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_debugfs.c                 |   56 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_exec.c                    |  294 ++++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_gem.c                     |    3 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/drm_gpuva_mgr.c               | 1323 
>>>> +++++++++++++++++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/Kbuild                |    3 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/Kconfig               |    2 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/nvif/if000c.h |   23 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/nvif/vmm.h    |   17 +-
>>>>   .../gpu/drm/nouveau/include/nvkm/subdev/mmu.h |   10 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_abi16.c       |   23 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_abi16.h       |    1 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_bo.c          |  152 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_bo.h          |    2 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_chan.c        |   16 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_chan.h        |    1 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_debugfs.c     |   24 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drm.c         |   25 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drv.h         |   92 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_exec.c        |  310 ++++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_exec.h        |   55 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_fence.c       |    7 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_fence.h       |    2 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_gem.c         |   83 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_mem.h         |    5 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_prime.c       |    2 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_sched.c       |  780 ++++++++++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_sched.h       |   98 ++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_svm.c         |    2 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_uvmm.c        |  575 +++++++
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_uvmm.h        |   68 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_vmm.c         |    4 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvif/vmm.c            |   73 +-
>>>>   .../gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/mmu/uvmm.c    |  168 ++-
>>>>   .../gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/mmu/uvmm.h    |    1 +
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/mmu/vmm.c |   32 +-
>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nvkm/subdev/mmu/vmm.h |    3 +
>>>>   include/drm/drm_debugfs.h                     |   25 +
>>>>   include/drm/drm_drv.h                         |    6 +
>>>>   include/drm/drm_exec.h                        |  144 ++
>>>>   include/drm/drm_gem.h                         |   75 +
>>>>   include/drm/drm_gpuva_mgr.h                   |  527 +++++++
>>>>   include/uapi/drm/nouveau_drm.h                |  216 +++
>>>>   47 files changed, 5266 insertions(+), 126 deletions(-)
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/drm_exec.c
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/drm_gpuva_mgr.c
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_exec.c
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_exec.h
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_sched.c
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_sched.h
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_uvmm.c
>>>>   create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_uvmm.h
>>>>   create mode 100644 include/drm/drm_exec.h
>>>>   create mode 100644 include/drm/drm_gpuva_mgr.h
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> base-commit: 0b45ac1170ea6416bc1d36798414c04870cd356d
>>>
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-18 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18  6:12 [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 01/14] drm: execution context for GEM buffers Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 02/14] drm/exec: fix memory leak in drm_exec_prepare_obj() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  8:51   ` Christian König
2023-01-18 19:00     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 03/14] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  4:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-20 18:32     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-23 23:23   ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2023-01-26 23:43   ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  0:24   ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-03 17:37   ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-06 13:35     ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:46       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-14 11:52     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 04/14] drm: debugfs: provide infrastructure to dump a DRM GPU VA space Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 13:55   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 15:47   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 05/14] drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  1:05   ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  1:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  7:55       ` Christian König
2023-01-27 13:12         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 13:23           ` Christian König
2023-01-27 14:44             ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 15:17               ` Christian König
2023-01-27 20:25                 ` David Airlie
2023-01-30 12:58                   ` Christian König
2023-01-27 21:09                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-29 18:46                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-30 13:02                     ` Christian König
2023-01-30 23:38                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-01  8:10                       ` [Nouveau] " Dave Airlie
2023-02-02 11:53                         ` Christian König
2023-02-02 18:31                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06  9:48                             ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:27                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06 16:14                                 ` Christian König
2023-02-06 18:20                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-07  9:35                                     ` Christian König
2023-02-07 10:50                                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-10 11:50                                         ` Christian König
2023-02-10 12:47                                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  1:43     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  3:21       ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  3:33         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 06/14] drm/nouveau: get vmm via nouveau_cli_vmm() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 07/14] drm/nouveau: bo: initialize GEM GPU VA interface Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 08/14] drm/nouveau: move usercopy helpers to nouveau_drv.h Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 09/14] drm/nouveau: fence: fail to emit when fence context is killed Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 10/14] drm/nouveau: chan: provide nouveau_channel_kill() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 11/14] drm/nouveau: nvkm/vmm: implement raw ops to manage uvmm Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-20  3:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 12/14] drm/nouveau: implement uvmm for user mode bindings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 13/14] drm/nouveau: implement new VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 20:37   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-19  3:44     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  4:58       ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19  7:32         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-20 10:08         ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 14/14] drm/nouveau: debugfs: implement DRM GPU VA debugfs Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  8:53 ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Christian König
2023-01-18 15:34   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 15:37     ` Christian König
2023-01-18 16:19       ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2023-01-18 16:30         ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 16:50           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 16:54             ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 19:17               ` Dave Airlie
2023-01-18 19:48                 ` Christian König
2023-01-19  4:04                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  5:23                     ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19 11:33                       ` drm_gpuva_manager requirements (was Re: [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI) Christian König
2023-02-06 14:48                       ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Oded Gabbay
2023-03-16 16:39                         ` Danilo Krummrich

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