From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3953AC43460 for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3C761411 for ; Wed, 12 May 2021 17:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233434AbhELRRA (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 13:17:00 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:42034 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1346525AbhELRNs (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 May 2021 13:13:48 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:e::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B123C061574; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Mime-Version:Content-Type:References: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=Bbe/giLRixNHZfVxrsBWK3QD/DvA2E8vNtncCgEH6tY=; b=GMyx8yNb1WU+k0lf4hnLOgZHBr 6DFDVEZXTOLWMsR8c+DFSqytTjIYYEdjxaixq5vRe3+3JWR59MOXd/W8EDHvUxuOfMniJtjC7qemY xjWsT8/erX8vmk23Ssat6lHd6OnEvhlJOV+WAGGL+AqjSi5Z1HY6veeTfwqvgf2BCwXLFjuBqRLmy eChY1b3iu2fMKuB2WLM6NbgnMZ0AfKtp9a670pjykiwtv49KoHHXLZ9qKXnB8cceJrdyUmpGpk0vm FOwCw9zzsVV5nAOzGYvVHRudpwMhKlH1f9Y9YLfhCUnOYbYtyvlEGDEZRwcjLejXp+2r18iytiQ9m ICcU8TEw==; Received: from 54-240-197-236.amazon.com ([54.240.197.236] helo=u3832b3a9db3152.ant.amazon.com) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lgsPT-00AdJd-Be; Wed, 12 May 2021 17:12:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/40] Use ASCII subset instead of UTF-8 alternate symbols From: David Woodhouse To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Theodore Ts'o Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Mali DP Maintainers , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:12:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210512171741.2870bcbc@coco.lan> References: <20210512171741.2870bcbc@coco.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-hWc+xAn5S+EFrraSjweQ" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org --=-hWc+xAn5S+EFrraSjweQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2021-05-12 at 17:17 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Wed, 12 May 2021 10:14:44 -0400 > "Theodore Ts'o" escreveu: >=20 > > On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 02:50:04PM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > v2: > > > - removed EM/EN DASH conversion from this patchset; =20 > >=20 > > Are you still thinking about doing the > >=20 > > EN DASH --> "--" > > EM DASH --> "---" > >=20 > > conversion? =20 >=20 > Yes, but I intend to submit it on a separate patch series, probably after > having this one merged. Let's first cleanup the large part of the=20 > conversion-generated UTF-8 char noise ;-) >=20 > > That's not going to change what the documentation will > > look like in the HTML and PDF output forms, and I think it would make > > life easier for people are reading and editing the Documentation/* > > files in text form. >=20 > Agreed. I'm also considering to add a couple of cases of this char: >=20 > - U+2026 ('=E2=80=A6'): HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS >=20 > As Sphinx also replaces "..." into HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS. Er, what? The *only* part of this whole enterprise that actually seemed to make even a tiny bit of sense =E2=80=94 rather than seeming like a thinly veiled retrospective excuse for dragging us back in time by 30 years =E2=80=94 was= the bit about making it easier to grep. But if I understand you correctly, you're talking about using something like C trigraphs to represent the perfectly reasonable text emdash character ("=E2=80=94") as two hyphen-minuses ("--") in the source code of = the documentation? Isn't that going to achieve precisely the *opposite*? If I select some text in the HTML output of the docs and then search for it in the source code, that's going to *stop* it matching my search? --=-hWc+xAn5S+EFrraSjweQ Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCECow ggUcMIIEBKADAgECAhEA4rtJSHkq7AnpxKUY8ZlYZjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBlzELMAkGA1UE BhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgTEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgG A1UEChMRQ09NT0RPIENBIExpbWl0ZWQxPTA7BgNVBAMTNENPTU9ETyBSU0EgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhl bnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0EwHhcNMTkwMTAyMDAwMDAwWhcNMjIwMTAxMjM1 OTU5WjAkMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNkd213MkBpbmZyYWRlYWQub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAsv3wObLTCbUA7GJqKj9vHGf+Fa+tpkO+ZRVve9EpNsMsfXhvFpb8 RgL8vD+L133wK6csYoDU7zKiAo92FMUWaY1Hy6HqvVr9oevfTV3xhB5rQO1RHJoAfkvhy+wpjo7Q 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