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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/40] Use ASCII subset instead of UTF-8 alternate symbols
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 18:07:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2fed242fbe200706b8d23a53512f0311d900297.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1620823573.git.mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>

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Your title 'Use ASCII subset' is now at least a bit *closer* to
describing what the patches are actually doing, but it's still a bit
misleading because you're only doing it for *some* characters.

And the wording is still indicative of a fundamentally *misguided*
motivation for doing any of this. Your commit comments should be about
fixing a specific thing, nothing to do with "use ASCII subset", which
is pointless in itself.

On Wed, 2021-05-12 at 14:50 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Such conversion tools - plus some text editor like LibreOffice  or similar  - have
> a set of rules that turns some typed ASCII characters into UTF-8 alternatives,
> for instance converting commas into curly commas and adding non-breakable
> spaces. All of those are meant to produce better results when the text is
> displayed in HTML or PDF formats.

And don't we render our documentation into HTML or PDF formats? Are
some of those non-breaking spaces not actually *useful* for their
intended purpose?

> While it is perfectly fine to use UTF-8 characters in Linux, and specially at
> the documentation,  it is better to  stick to the ASCII subset  on such
> particular case,  due to a couple of reasons:
> 
> 1. it makes life easier for tools like grep;

Barely, as noted, because of things like line feeds.

> 2. they easier to edit with the some commonly used text/source
>    code editors.

That is nonsense. Any but the most broken and/or anachronistic
environments and editors will be just fine.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 12:50 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 01/40] docs: hwmon: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 02/40] docs: admin-guide: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 03/40] docs: admin-guide: media: ipu3.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 04/40] docs: admin-guide: perf: imx-ddr.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 05/40] docs: admin-guide: pm: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 13:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 06/40] docs: trace: coresight: coresight-etm4x-reference.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 07/40] docs: driver-api: ioctl.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 08/40] docs: driver-api: thermal: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-06-12 19:08   ` Daniel Lezcano
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 09/40] docs: driver-api: media: drivers: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 10/40] docs: driver-api: firmware: other_interfaces.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 11/40] docs: fault-injection: nvme-fault-injection.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 12/40] docs: usb: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 13/40] docs: process: code-of-conduct.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 14/40] docs: userspace-api: media: fdl-appendix.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 15/40] docs: userspace-api: media: v4l: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 16/40] docs: userspace-api: media: dvb: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 17/40] docs: vm: zswap.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 18/40] docs: filesystems: f2fs.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 19/40] docs: filesystems: ext4: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 20/40] docs: kernel-hacking: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 21/40] docs: hid: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 22/40] docs: security: tpm: tpm_event_log.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 23/40] docs: security: keys: trusted-encrypted.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 24/40] docs: networking: scaling.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 25/40] docs: networking: devlink: devlink-dpipe.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 26/40] docs: networking: device_drivers: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 27/40] docs: x86: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 28/40] docs: scheduler: sched-deadline.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 29/40] docs: power: powercap: powercap.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 13:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 30/40] docs: ABI: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 13:49   ` Sudeep Holla
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 31/40] docs: PCI: acpi-info.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 21:29   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 32/40] docs: gpu: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 33/40] docs: sound: kernel-api: writing-an-alsa-driver.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 34/40] docs: arm64: arm-acpi.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 35/40] docs: infiniband: tag_matching.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 36/40] docs: misc-devices: ibmvmc.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 37/40] docs: firmware-guide: acpi: lpit.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 13:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 38/40] docs: firmware-guide: acpi: dsd: graph.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 13:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 39/40] docs: virt: kvm: api.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 12:50 ` [PATCH v2 40/40] docs: RCU: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 14:14 ` [PATCH v2 00/40] " Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-12 15:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12 17:12     ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-12 17:07 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2021-05-14  8:21   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-14  9:06     ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-14 11:08       ` Edward Cree
2021-05-14 14:18         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-15  8:22       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-15  9:24         ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-15 11:23           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-15 12:02             ` David Woodhouse

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