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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make the memory failure blast radius more precise
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 23:17:41 +0100
Message-ID: <20200623221741.GH21350@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200623220412.GA21232@agluck-desk2.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 03:04:12PM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 09:17:45PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > Hardware actually tells us the blast radius of the error, but we ignore
> > it and take out the entire page.  We've had a customer request to know
> > exactly how much of the page is damaged so they can avoid reconstructing
> > an entire 2MB page if only a single cacheline is damaged.
> > 
> > This is only a strawman that I did in an hour or two; I'd appreciate
> > architectural-level feedback.  Should I just convert memory_failure() to
> > always take an address & granularity?  Should I create a struct to pass
> > around (page, phys, granularity) instead of reconstructing the missing
> > pieces in half a dozen functions?  Is this functionality welcome at all,
> > or is the risk of upsetting applications which expect at least a page
> > of granularity too high?
> 
> What is the interface to these applications that want finer granularity?
> 
> Current code does very poorly with hugetlbfs pages ... user loses the
> whole 2 MB or 1GB. That's just silly (though I've been told that it is
> hard to fix because allowing a hugetlbfs page to be broken up at an arbitrary
> time as the result of a mahcine check means that the kernel needs locking
> around a bunch of fas paths that currently assume that a huge page will
> stay being a huge page).
> 
> For sub-4K page usage, there are different problems. We can't leave the
> original page with the poisoned cache line mapped to the user as they may
> just access the poison data and trigger another machine check. But if we
> map in some different page with all the good bits copied, the user needs
> to be aware which parts of the page no longer have their data.

This is specifically for DAX.  The interface we were hoping to use to
fix the error is to leave the mapping in place and call

	fallocate(fd, FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE, offset, len);

The application will then take care of writing actual data that isn't
zeroes to the file.  Or leave it as zeroes if that's what the application
wants to be its error indicator.

The fallocate path doesn't work quite right today, but there's no point
in trying to fix that up if we can't sort out the delivery of the actual
error range.

It might also be nice to have an madvise() MADV_ZERO option so the
application doesn't have to look up the fd associated with that memory
range, but we haven't floated that idea with the customer yet; I just
thought of it now.

  reply index

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-23 20:17 Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-23 21:48 ` Dan Williams
2020-06-23 22:04 ` Luck, Tony
2020-06-23 22:17   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-06-23 22:26     ` Luck, Tony
2020-06-23 22:40       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24  0:01         ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-24 12:10           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-24 23:21             ` Dan Williams
2020-06-25  0:17               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-25  1:18                 ` Dan Williams
2020-06-24 21:22         ` Jane Chu
2020-06-25  0:13           ` Luck, Tony
2020-06-25 16:23             ` Jane Chu
2020-06-24  4:32   ` David Rientjes
2020-06-24 20:57     ` Jane Chu
2020-06-24 22:01       ` David Rientjes
2020-06-25  2:16     ` HORIGUCHI NAOYA(堀口 直也)

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