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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>,
	Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] efi/libstub: measurement initrd data loaded by the EFI stub
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 07:51:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201103055156.GA355267@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201102170634.20575-1-ardb@kernel.org>

Hi Ard,

On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 06:06:27PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> This series enables measurement of the initrd data loaded directly by the
> EFI stub into the TPM, using the TCG2 protocol exposed by the firmware (if
> available). This ensures that the initrd observed and used by the OS is the
> same one that got measured into the TPM, which is more difficult to guarantee
> in the current situation.
> 

I like this. The OS gets the ability to 'self-measure' one critical component.
This can of course be done in the bootloader or GRUB, but having the functionality
in the stub will allow you to boot with a verified initrd, if even GRUB isn't 
there or the bootloader doesn't measure the initrd.

> This is posted as an RFC since it is mostly an invitation to discuss how
> we can fit this into a longer term strategy for arch-agnostic secure and
> measured boot that does not hinge on the Shim+GRUB tandem, or on deep
> knowledge on the part of the bootloader regarding device trees, bootparams
> structs, allocation and placement policies of various artifacts etc etc
> 
> Open questions:
> - Should we do this?

I think so. I can't find any arguments why we shouldn't.

> - Are Linux systems in the field using PCR value prediction when updating the
>   initrd? Does this approach interfere with that?
> - Which PCR and event type to use

No idea. I think distros will have an opinion on that

> - Is a separator event needed here, given that the initrd measurement is
>   recorded even if no initrd was loaded by the stub?

I think having the event make sense, but if we going to make a standard 
measurement for the initrd, we need to discuss this a bit more.

> 
> Note that the EFI stub ignores the initrd provided directly via bootparams or
> the device tree, and it would be nice if we could keep doing that.
> 
> Build tested only.


Cheers
/Ilias

> 
> Cc: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
> Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
> Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
> Cc: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
> Cc: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
> 
> Ard Biesheuvel (7):
>   efi/libstub: whitespace cleanup
>   efi/libstub: fix prototype of efi_tcg2_protocol::get_event_log()
>   efi/libstub: x86/mixed: increase supported argument count
>   efi/libstub: move TPM related prototypes into efistub.h
>   efi/libstub: add prototype of
>     efi_tcg2_protocol::hash_log_extend_event()
>   efi/libstub: consolidate initrd handling across architectures
>   efi/libstub: measure loaded initrd info into the TPM
> 
>  arch/x86/boot/compressed/efi_thunk_64.S       | 17 ++++--
>  arch/x86/include/asm/efi.h                    | 13 +++--
>  arch/x86/platform/efi/efi_thunk_64.S          | 17 ++++--
>  .../firmware/efi/libstub/efi-stub-helper.c    | 56 +++++++++++++++----
>  drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/efi-stub.c       | 10 +---
>  drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/efistub.h        | 34 ++++++++++-
>  drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/x86-stub.c       | 26 ++++-----
>  include/linux/efi.h                           | 13 +----
>  8 files changed, 123 insertions(+), 63 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.17.1
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-02 17:06 [RFC PATCH 0/7] efi/libstub: measurement initrd data loaded by the EFI stub Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] efi/libstub: whitespace cleanup Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] efi/libstub: fix prototype of efi_tcg2_protocol::get_event_log() Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] efi/libstub: x86/mixed: increase supported argument count Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] efi/libstub: move TPM related prototypes into efistub.h Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] efi/libstub: add prototype of efi_tcg2_protocol::hash_log_extend_event() Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] efi/libstub: consolidate initrd handling across architectures Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 17:06 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] efi/libstub: measure loaded initrd info into the TPM Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-03 21:45   ` James Bottomley
2020-11-02 19:39 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] efi/libstub: measurement initrd data loaded by the EFI stub Matthew Garrett
2020-11-02 20:24   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-02 20:26     ` Matthew Garrett
2020-11-03 21:37       ` James Bottomley
2020-11-03 22:29   ` James Bottomley
2020-11-03  5:51 ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2020-11-03  8:18   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-03 21:22 ` James Bottomley

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