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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64/efi: Don't pad between EFI_MEMORY_RUNTIME regions
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:08:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_JRCmx5qKq7SDDq73BegVs3LKZwe+OdvTKb4YD_CURyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150926060159.GB25877-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 25 September 2015 at 23:01, Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> * Matt Fleming <matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>
>> The new Properties Table feature introduced in UEFIv2.5 may split
>> memory regions that cover PE/COFF memory images into separate code
>> and data regions. Since these regions only differ in the type (runtime
>> code vs runtime data) and the permission bits, but not in the memory
>> type attributes (UC/WC/WT/WB), the spec does not require them to be
>> aligned to 64 KB.
>>
>> Since the relative offset of PE/COFF .text and .data segments cannot
>> be changed on the fly, this means that we can no longer pad out those
>> regions to be mappable using 64 KB pages.
>> Unfortunately, there is no annotation in the UEFI memory map that
>> identifies data regions that were split off from a code region, so we
>> must apply this logic to all adjacent runtime regions whose attributes
>> only differ in the permission bits.
>>
>> So instead of rounding each memory region to 64 KB alignment at both
>> ends, only round down regions that are not directly preceded by another
>> runtime region with the same type attributes. Since the UEFI spec does
>> not mandate that the memory map be sorted, this means we also need to
>> sort it first.
>
> So I think this is fundamentally wrong as well, similarly to the related x86 fix.
>
> I think for compatibility reasons the whole 'EFI runtime image' should be mapped
> in a single go, as closely matching the EFI layouts and offsets as possible. We
> are not talking about gigabytes here, right?
>

As I explained in the other thread, this is really not necessary, and
never has been until the firmware started splitting up PE/COFF images
into several sections each. As long as we keep those PE/COFF images
together, everything will work as before, and the only complication is
that the memory map does not contain any clues about which regions
belong to a single PE/COFF image, so we need to keep all adjacent
EFI_MEMORY_RUNTIME regions adjacent in the VA mapping.

> Even if technically they are 'separate sections', the x86 bug shows that they
> aren't. So we should not pretend so on the Linux side either and we should not
> tear them apart (and then work hard to preserve the interdependencies, some
> declared, some hidden!).
>

This is about relocations and interdependencies at the symbol level,
and such interdependencies only exist internally inside PE/COFF
images.

> If we allocate the EFI runtime as a single virtual memory block then issues like
> rounding between sections does not even come up as a problem: we map the original
> offsets and sizes byte by byte.
>

Well, by that reasoning, we should not call SetVirtualAddressMap() in
the first place, and just use the 1:1 mapping UEFI uses natively. This
is more than feasible on arm64, and I actually fought hard against
using SetVirtualAddressMap() at all, but I was overruled by others. I
think this is also trivially possible on X64, since the 1:1 mapping is
already active alongside the VA mapping.

-- 
Ard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-26  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25 22:02 [GIT PULL 0/2] EFI urgent fixes Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/efi: Map EFI memmap entries in-order at runtime Matt Fleming
     [not found]   ` <1443218539-7610-2-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26  5:56     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20150926055643.GA25877-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26  6:44         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 17:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-26 17:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <E40EBF14-FD9E-49C0-A7FB-951958F72F79-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26 18:15               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 19:49                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-26 19:57                   ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                     ` <20150926195755.GC3144-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26 20:09                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 20:19                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-27 16:30                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <CALCETrUA6k-oHzuWA54VzEA1v63b5--JPCCuBoOxLisOtjUn+g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-27 18:06                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                 ` <20150927180633.GA29466-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28  6:16                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  6:41                                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                       ` <20150928064143.GA7380-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 21:58                                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-30  9:30                                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                             ` <CAKv+Gu-enULj-OMRufB3OPSUVueM1843bD1CdFybaAS7xMUKgw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30 16:43                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 17:24                                                 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                     ` <20150928061646.GA21690-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30  0:54                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-26 19:55               ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-27  6:50           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-26 13:43       ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20150926134329.GA3144-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-27  7:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  6:49             ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]               ` <CAKv+Gu8M2pmzfeA=NT4c44E6-PQvRKHZjEJt78mryGcp6bBD8w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28  8:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <20150928082245.GA28796-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28  9:51                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-29  9:12                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-29 10:41                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                           ` <CAKv+Gu8GpaHRL8EZxJCs8dw8ngFVoYNP1Q=hqhZ=LOF+3vXPLw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 14:18                             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                         ` <20150929091230.GA2023-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 13:52                           ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64/efi: Don't pad between EFI_MEMORY_RUNTIME regions Matt Fleming
     [not found]   ` <1443218539-7610-3-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26  6:01     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20150926060159.GB25877-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26  7:08         ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
     [not found]           ` <CAKv+Gu_JRCmx5qKq7SDDq73BegVs3LKZwe+OdvTKb4YD_CURyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-27  7:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 10:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-28  6:20                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-29  9:31                 ` Dave Young
2015-09-29 10:24                   ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                 ` <20150927104014.GA7631-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-29 14:36                   ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                     ` <20150929143612.GC4401-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30  0:56                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                         ` <560B3327.9020801-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30  8:33                           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-30  1:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-30  1:16                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30  1:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrVvwxZN95swaUDG2fkz9brWV3BQkfMDtLJXZkTRpe8nRg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30  4:24                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-10-01 10:44                 ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-06-30 10:17 [PATCH 0/2] arm64/efi: adapt to UEFI 2.5 properties table changes Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found] ` <1435659443-17625-1-git-send-email-ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 10:17   ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64/efi: don't pad between EFI_MEMORY_RUNTIME regions Ard Biesheuvel

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