linux-efi.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] efi: x86: Make the deprecated EFI handover protocol optional
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 10:59:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXE6L+aNJCCcq=A3q=oG-e83JA=iA1ujSaat0BRjgyH0XA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0GcZQZTaCgoNFGa@nazgul.tnic>

On Sat, 8 Oct 2022 at 17:51, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2022 at 05:41:40PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > Yeah most distros have ~100 ore more patches against GRUB, but this
> > isn't actually their fault. GRUB maintainership was defunct for a
> > number of years, which is why we were stuck on GRUB version 2.02-beta3
> > for such a long time. But in recent years, things have been getting
> > better, and there is an agreement with the current maintainer not to
> > merge the EFI handover protocol, and merge the new EFI protocol based
> > initrd loading method instead, which works on all architectures
> > instead of only on x86.
>
> Aha, ok.
>
> > Never tried that in .S files but I guess it should just work.
>
> If not, at least in the .c files.
>
> > I'd venture a guess that this will break the boot even your own x86
> > boxes, given that almost nobody uses plain upstream GRUB..
> >
> > I can work with the distros directly to start disabling this in their
> > downstream configs once their GRUB builds are up to date with the new
> > changes, so we can phase this out in a controlled manner.
>
> Hm, that might turn out to be a multi-year effort considering how the
> enterprise distros' kernels are moving. Yeah, yeah, they have good
> reasons and so on.
>

Yes, this is going to take time. But we simply cannot get rid of it
today, so the choice we have is between doing nothing at all, or
taking the next step in phasing out this stuff.

-- 
Ard.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-10  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-07 17:29 [PATCH] efi: x86: Make the deprecated EFI handover protocol optional Ard Biesheuvel
2022-10-08 14:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-08 15:41   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-10-08 15:51     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-10  8:59       ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2022-10-10  9:21         ` Borislav Petkov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAMj1kXE6L+aNJCCcq=A3q=oG-e83JA=iA1ujSaat0BRjgyH0XA@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=linux-efi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).