From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21988C3A589 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 06:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965B222CF4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 06:24:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 965B222CF4 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=huawei.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linux-erofs-bounces+linux-erofs=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from bilbo.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CLNm5Xn9zDr44 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 16:24:24 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=huawei.com (client-ip=45.249.212.189; helo=huawei.com; envelope-from=gaoxiang25@huawei.com; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=huawei.com Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [45.249.212.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46CLM745rNzDqxg for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 16:22:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from DGGEMM403-HUB.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.30.72.53]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 7E5E841EF0B333FB35FC; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:22:54 +0800 (CST) Received: from dggeme762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.108) by DGGEMM403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.439.0; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:22:53 +0800 Received: from architecture4 (10.140.130.215) by dggeme762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1591.10; Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:22:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:22:13 +0800 From: Gao Xiang To: Qu Wenruo Subject: Re: [PATCH] erofs: move erofs out of staging Message-ID: <20190820062213.GA202784@architecture4> References: <20190818162201.GA16269@infradead.org> <20190818172938.GA14413@sol.localdomain> <20190818174702.GA17633@infradead.org> <20190818181654.GA1617@hsiangkao-HP-ZHAN-66-Pro-G1> <20190818201405.GA27398@hsiangkao-HP-ZHAN-66-Pro-G1> <20190819160923.GG15198@magnolia> <20190819203051.GA10075@hsiangkao-HP-ZHAN-66-Pro-G1> <698e2fa6-956b-b367-6f6a-3e6b09bfef5f@huawei.com> <301ccbea-4140-3816-a1b3-5018ffb4036c@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <301ccbea-4140-3816-a1b3-5018ffb4036c@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Originating-IP: [10.140.130.215] X-ClientProxiedBy: dggeme708-chm.china.huawei.com (10.1.199.104) To dggeme762-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.108) X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-BeenThere: linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Linux EROFS file system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Jan Kara , Amir Goldstein , Dave Chinner , David Sterba , miaoxie@huawei.com, devel , Stephen Rothwell , "Darrick J. Wong" , Richard Weinberger , Christoph Hellwig , torvalds , Eric Biggers , Al Viro , Jaegeuk Kim , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel , Pavel Machek , linux-fsdevel , Andrew Morton , linux-erofs Errors-To: linux-erofs-bounces+linux-erofs=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linux-erofs" Hi Qu, On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 02:04:46PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote: > [...] > > And performance is another point. > That tree-checker in btrfs is as fast/slow as CRC32. > Not sure how it would be for dm-verity, but I guess it's slower than > CRC32 if using any strong hash. Just a word, dm-verity can do simple CRC32 without hash tree in priciple as well. It is only a time problem. > > Anyway, for a RO fs, if it's relying on dm-verify then that's OK for > real-world usage. > But as a standalone fs, even it's RO, a verification layer would be a > great plus. Yes, again, it's on my schedule at least. > > At least when new student developers try fuzzed images on the fs, it > would be a good surprise other than tons of new bug reports. > > > > > > >>> > [...] > >>> > >>> Yes, we will do such a debugging tool of course. Actually Li Guifu is now > >>> developping a erofs-fuse to support old linux versions or other OSes for > >>> archiveing only use, we will base on that code to develop a better fuzzer > >>> tool as well. > >> > >> Personally speaking, debugging tool is way more important than a running > >> kernel module/fuse. > >> It's human trying to write the code, most of time is spent educating > >> code readers, thus debugging tool is way more important than dead cold code. > > > > Agree, Xiang and I have no time to developing this feature now, we are glad very much if you could help > > us to do it ;) > > In fact, since the fs is a RO fs, it could be pretty good educational > example for any fs newbies. Thus a debug tool which can show the full > metadata of the fs can really be helpful. Yes, I think EROFS will be helpful for all fs newbies to understand the basic fs concepts, and I have received contributions from some new kernel developers. And again, I will do in my spare time. I'm dedicated to playing with EROFS in my spare time (rather than only at work to maintain for our products), so I will do and don't worry about that. And I agree with Miao Xie on one word, you can join us as well for educational reason or whatever if you have some extra time... :) Thanks, Gao Xiang > > In fact, btrfs-debug-tree (now "btrfs ins dump-tree") leads my way to > btrfs, and still one of my favourite tool to debug. > > Thanks, > Qu > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > devel@linuxdriverproject.org > http://driverdev.linuxdriverproject.org/mailman/listinfo/driverdev-devel