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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/22] jbd2: Account descriptor blocks into t_outstanding_credits
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:09:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023130934.GA31271@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191021210420.GA24015@mit.edu>

On Mon 21-10-19 17:04:20, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 12:06:02AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Currently, journal descriptor blocks were not accounted in
> > transaction->t_outstanding_credits and we were just leaving some slack
> > space in the journal for them (in jbd2_log_space_left() and
> > jbd2_space_needed()). This is making proper accounting (and reservation
> > we want to add) of descriptor blocks difficult so switch to accounting
> > descriptor blocks in transaction->t_outstanding_credits and just reserve
> > the same amount of credits in t_outstanding credits for journal
> > descriptor blocks when creating transaction.
> 
> This changes the meaning of t_oustanding credits; in particular the
> documentation of t_outstanding_credits in include/linux/jbd2.h is no
> longer correct, as it currently defines it has containing:
> 
>      Number of buffers reserved for use by all handles in this transaction
>      handle but not yet modified. [none]

Right, I can improve the description to better match the new meaning.

> Previously, t_outstanding_credits would go to zero once all of the
> handles attached to the transaction were closed.  Now, it is
> initialized to j_max_transaction_buffers >> 32, and once all of the
> handles are closed t_outstanding_credits will go back to that value.
> It then gets decremented as we write each jbd descriptor block
> (whether it is for a revoke block or a data block) during the commit
> and we throw a warning if we ever write more than j_max_transaction_buffers >> 32
> descriptor blocks.
> 
> Is that a fair summary of what happens after this commit?

Yes, that's correct.

> The thing is, I don't see how this helps the rest of the patch series;
> we account for space needed for the revoke blocks in later patches,
> but I don't see that adjusting t_outstanding credits.  We reserve
> extra space for the revoke blocks, and we then account for that space,
> but the fact that we have accounted for all of the extra descriptor
> blocks in t_outstanding_credits doesn't seem to be changed.  As a
> result, we appear to be double-counting the space needed for the
> revoke descriptor blocks.  Which is fine; I don't mind the accounting
> being a bit more conservative, but I find myself being a bit puzzled
> about why this change is necessary or adds value.

As you properly mentioned above the new meaning of t_outstanding_credits
is meant to be "the amount of space reserved for the transaction in the
journal". This is including all the descriptor blocks the transaction may
need. And it seemed easier to me to change t_outstanding_credits to this
new meaning because later the amount of space reserved for descriptor
blocks stops being constant so we would have to change several places to
use "t_outstanding_credits + t_descritor_credits" instead which gets
especially tricky in cases where we manipulate t_outstanding_credits
atomically (start_this_handle(), add_transaction_credits() in particular).

WRT double-accounting of credits reserved for descriptor blocks: Yes,
revoke descriptor blocks get accounted separately later in the series and
my plan was to shrink the estimate in jbd2_descriptor_blocks_per_trans() at
the end of the series to match the fact that now we need to account only
for commit block and other control blocks which are much more limited.
Which I forgot about in the end. So I will add a patch to do that now.
Thanks for the review!

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-03 22:05 [PATCH 0/19 v3] ext4: Fix transaction overflow due to revoke descriptors Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 01/22] jbd2: Fix possible overflow in jbd2_log_space_left() Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:08   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 02/22] jbd2: Fixup stale comment in commit code Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:08   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 03/22] ext4: Do not iput inode under running transaction in ext4_mkdir() Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:21   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-24 10:19     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-24 12:09       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-24 13:37         ` Jan Kara
2019-11-04 12:35           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 04/22] ext4: Fix credit estimate for final inode freeing Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:07   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-24 10:30     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 05/22] ext4: Fix ext4_should_journal_data() for EA inodes Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:38   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 16:55     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 06/22] ext4: Use ext4_journal_extend() instead of jbd2_journal_extend() Jan Kara
2019-10-21  1:39   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 07/22] ext4: Avoid unnecessary revokes in ext4_alloc_branch() Jan Kara
2019-10-21 13:39   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 08/22] ext4: Provide function to handle transaction restarts Jan Kara
2019-10-21 16:20   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 16:25     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 09/22] ext4, jbd2: Provide accessor function for handle credits Jan Kara
2019-10-21 16:21   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 10/22] ocfs2: Use accessor function for h_buffer_credits Jan Kara
2019-10-21 16:21   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 11/22] jbd2: Fix statistics for the number of logged blocks Jan Kara
2019-10-21 16:24   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 12/22] jbd2: Reorganize jbd2_journal_stop() Jan Kara
2019-10-21 17:29   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:05 ` [PATCH 13/22] jbd2: Drop pointless check from jbd2_journal_stop() Jan Kara
2019-10-21 17:30   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 14/22] jbd2: Drop pointless wakeup " Jan Kara
2019-10-21 17:34   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 15/22] jbd2: Factor out common parts of stopping and restarting a handle Jan Kara
2019-10-21 17:49   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 16:17     ` Jan Kara
2019-11-04 12:36       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-04 12:59         ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 16/22] jbd2: Account descriptor blocks into t_outstanding_credits Jan Kara
2019-10-21 21:04   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 13:09     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 17/22] jbd2: Drop jbd2_space_needed() Jan Kara
2019-10-21 21:05   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 18/22] jbd2: Reserve space for revoke descriptor blocks Jan Kara
2019-10-21 21:47   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 13:27     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 19/22] jbd2: Rename h_buffer_credits to h_total_credits Jan Kara
2019-10-21 21:48   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 20/22] jbd2: Make credit checking more strict Jan Kara
2019-10-21 22:29   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 13:30     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 21/22] ext4: Reserve revoke credits for freed blocks Jan Kara
2019-10-21 23:18   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-23 16:13     ` Jan Kara
2019-11-04 13:08       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-05  8:31         ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 22:06 ` [PATCH 22/22] jbd2: Provide trace event for handle restarts Jan Kara
2019-10-21 23:18   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-19 19:19 ` [PATCH 0/19 v3] ext4: Fix transaction overflow due to revoke descriptors Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-24 13:09   ` Jan Kara
2019-10-24 15:12     ` Jan Kara
2019-11-04  3:32 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-04 11:22   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-04 13:09     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 0/25 " Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 01/25] jbd2: Fix possible overflow in jbd2_log_space_left() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 02/25] jbd2: Fixup stale comment in commit code Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 03/25] jbd2: Completely fill journal descriptor blocks Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 04/25] ext4: Move marking of handle as sync to ext4_add_nondir() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 05/25] ext4: Do not iput inode under running transaction Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 06/25] ext4: Fix credit estimate for final inode freeing Jan Kara
2019-11-05 21:00   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 07/25] ext4: Fix ext4_should_journal_data() for EA inodes Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 08/25] ext4: Use ext4_journal_extend() instead of jbd2_journal_extend() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 09/25] ext4: Avoid unnecessary revokes in ext4_alloc_branch() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 10/25] ext4: Provide function to handle transaction restarts Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 11/25] ext4, jbd2: Provide accessor function for handle credits Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 12/25] ocfs2: Use accessor function for h_buffer_credits Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 13/25] jbd2: Fix statistics for the number of logged blocks Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 14/25] jbd2: Reorganize jbd2_journal_stop() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 15/25] jbd2: Drop pointless check from jbd2_journal_stop() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 16/25] jbd2: Drop pointless wakeup " Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 17/25] jbd2: Factor out common parts of stopping and restarting a handle Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 18/25] jbd2: Account descriptor blocks into t_outstanding_credits Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 19/25] jbd2: Drop jbd2_space_needed() Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 20/25] jbd2: Reserve space for revoke descriptor blocks Jan Kara
2019-11-15  7:52   ` Eric Biggers
2019-11-15 10:02     ` Jan Kara
2019-11-15 14:20       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-15 17:10         ` Eric Biggers
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 21/25] jbd2: Rename h_buffer_credits to h_total_credits Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 22/25] jbd2: Make credit checking more strict Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 23/25] ext4: Reserve revoke credits for freed blocks Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 24/25] jbd2: Provide trace event for handle restarts Jan Kara
2019-11-05 16:44 ` [PATCH 25/25] jbd2: Fine tune estimate of necessary descriptor blocks Jan Kara
2019-11-05 21:04 ` [PATCH 0/25 v3] ext4: Fix transaction overflow due to revoke descriptors Theodore Y. Ts'o
     [not found] ` <20191112220614.GA11089@mit.edu>
     [not found]   ` <20191113094545.GC6367@quack2.suse.cz>
2019-11-14  5:26     ` [PATCH 0/19 " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-14  8:49       ` Jan Kara

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