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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] fs/locks: Add Exclusive flag to user Layout lease
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 08:52:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2227b44d9e36f9bd129c73ee77c03b35d023236a.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190829233408.GD18249@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com>

On Thu, 2019-08-29 at 16:34 -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> Missed this.  sorry.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 06:41:07AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 07:56 +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:15:06AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 15:58 -0700, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > > > > From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Add an exclusive lease flag which indicates that the layout mechanism
> > > > > can not be broken.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Exclusive layout leases allow the file system to know that pages may be
> > > > > GUP pined and that attempts to change the layout, ie truncate, should be
> > > > > failed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A process which attempts to break it's own exclusive lease gets an
> > > > > EDEADLOCK return to help determine that this is likely a programming bug
> > > > > vs someone else holding a resource.
> > > .....
> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/asm-generic/fcntl.h b/include/uapi/asm-generic/fcntl.h
> > > > > index baddd54f3031..88b175ceccbc 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/asm-generic/fcntl.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/asm-generic/fcntl.h
> > > > > @@ -176,6 +176,8 @@ struct f_owner_ex {
> > > > >  
> > > > >  #define F_LAYOUT	16      /* layout lease to allow longterm pins such as
> > > > >  				   RDMA */
> > > > > +#define F_EXCLUSIVE	32      /* layout lease is exclusive */
> > > > > +				/* FIXME or shoudl this be F_EXLCK??? */
> > > > >  
> > > > >  /* operations for bsd flock(), also used by the kernel implementation */
> > > > >  #define LOCK_SH		1	/* shared lock */
> > > > 
> > > > This interface just seems weird to me. The existing F_*LCK values aren't
> > > > really set up to be flags, but are enumerated values (even if there are
> > > > some gaps on some arches). For instance, on parisc and sparc:
> > > 
> > > I don't think we need to worry about this - the F_WRLCK version of
> > > the layout lease should have these exclusive access semantics (i.e
> > > other ops fail rather than block waiting for lease recall) and hence
> > > the API shouldn't need a new flag to specify them.
> > > 
> > > i.e. the primary difference between F_RDLCK and F_WRLCK layout
> > > leases is that the F_RDLCK is a shared, co-operative lease model
> > > where only delays in operations will be seen, while F_WRLCK is a
> > > "guarantee exclusive access and I don't care what it breaks"
> > > model... :)
> > > 
> > 
> > Not exactly...
> > 
> > F_WRLCK and F_RDLCK leases can both be broken, and will eventually time
> > out if there is conflicting access. The F_EXCLUSIVE flag on the other
> > hand is there to prevent any sort of lease break from 
> 
> Right EXCLUSIVE will not break for any reason.  It will fail truncate and hole
> punch as we discussed back in June.  This is for the use case where the user
> has handed this file/pages off to some hardware for which removing the lease
> would be impossible.  _And_ we don't anticipate any valid use case that someone
> will need to truncate short of killing the process to free up file system
> space.
> 
> > I'm guessing what Ira really wants with the F_EXCLUSIVE flag is
> > something akin to what happens when we set fl_break_time to 0 in the
> > nfsd code. nfsd never wants the locks code to time out a lease of any
> > sort, since it handles that timeout itself.
> > 
> > If you're going to add this functionality, it'd be good to also convert
> > knfsd to use it as well, so we don't end up with multiple ways to deal
> > with that situation.
> 
> Could you point me at the source for knfsd?  I looked in 
> 
> git://git.linux-nfs.org/projects/steved/nfs-utils.git
> 
> but I don't see anywhere leases are used in that source?
> 

Ahh sorry that wasn't clear. It's the fs/nfsd directory in the Linux
kernel sources. See nfsd4_layout_lm_break and nfsd_break_deleg_cb in
particular.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-04 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 22:58 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] fs/locks: Export F_LAYOUT lease to user space ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:52   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 17:36     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14  8:05       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-14 11:21         ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-14 11:38           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] fs/locks: Add Exclusive flag to user Layout lease ira.weiny
2019-08-14 14:15   ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-14 21:56     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-26 10:41       ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-29 23:34         ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-04 12:52           ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2019-09-04 23:12   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] mm/gup: Pass flags down to __gup_device_huge* calls ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] mm/gup: Ensure F_LAYOUT lease is held prior to GUP'ing pages ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] fs/ext4: Teach ext4 to break layout leases ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] fs/ext4: Teach dax_layout_busy_page() to operate on a sub-range ira.weiny
2019-08-23 15:18   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-29 18:52     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] fs/xfs: Teach xfs to use new dax_layout_busy_page() ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:30   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 18:05     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14  8:04       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] fs/xfs: Fail truncate if page lease can't be broken ira.weiny
2019-08-09 23:22   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-12 18:08     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] mm/gup: Introduce vaddr_pin structure ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:06   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] mm/gup: Pass a NULL vaddr_pin through GUP fast ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:06   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] mm/gup: Pass follow_page_context further down the call stack ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:18   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 19:01     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] mm/gup: Prep put_user_pages() to take an vaddr_pin struct ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:30   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 20:46     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] {mm,file}: Add file_pins objects ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] fs/locks: Associate file pins while performing GUP ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] mm/gup: Introduce vaddr_pin_pages() ira.weiny
2019-08-10  0:09   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 21:00     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 21:20       ` John Hubbard
2019-08-11 23:07   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-12 21:01     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 12:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 21:48     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 11:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 17:46         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 17:56           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] RDMA/uverbs: Add back pointer to system file object ira.weiny
2019-08-12 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 17:28     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-12 17:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-12 21:15         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 11:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 17:41             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-13 18:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-13 20:38                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14 12:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-14 17:50                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-14 18:15                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-09-04 22:25                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-11  8:19                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] RDMA/umem: Convert to vaddr_[pin|unpin]* operations ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] {mm,procfs}: Add display file_pins proc ira.weiny
2019-08-09 22:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] mm/gup: Remove FOLL_LONGTERM DAX exclusion ira.weiny
2019-08-14 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) Jan Kara
2019-08-14 18:08   ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-15 13:05     ` Jan Kara
2019-08-16 19:05       ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-16 23:20         ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ; -) Ira Weiny
2019-08-19  6:36           ` Jan Kara
2019-08-17  2:26         ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal V1,000,002 ;-) Dave Chinner
2019-08-19  6:34           ` Jan Kara
2019-08-19  9:24             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-19 12:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-19 21:53                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-20  1:12                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20 11:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 18:02                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 18:13                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 18:22                         ` John Hubbard
2019-08-21 18:57                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 19:06                           ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 19:48                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21 20:44                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-21 23:49                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23  3:23                               ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-23 12:04                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-24  0:11                                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-24  5:08                                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-26  5:55                                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-29  2:02                                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-29  3:27                                           ` John Hubbard
2019-08-29 16:16                                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-02 22:26                                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04 16:54                                             ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-25 19:39                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-24  4:49                                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-25 19:40                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23  0:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-23 17:15                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-08-24  0:18                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20  0:05               ` John Hubbard
2019-08-20  1:20                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-20  3:09                   ` John Hubbard
2019-08-20  3:36                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-21 18:43                       ` John Hubbard
2019-08-21 19:09                         ` Ira Weiny

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