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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Harshad Shirwadkar <harshadshirwadkar@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/13] docs: Add fast commit documentation
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:53:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9DF0D322-3ACC-4094-976B-CF8F4A06F655@dilger.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191018132802.GE21137@mit.edu>

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On Oct 18, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@MIT.EDU> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 01:51:56PM +0900, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> What about rename or hard link?
> 
> Neither is currently handled by the fast commit patches, but each
> operation can fit inside a single block, so it could be handled as a
> update to a single inode.  In the case of rename, we will need to add
> some tags to indicate the desintation directory and directory enrty
> name, and whether or not there is a destination inode which needs to
> have its refcount dropped and possibly deleted.
> 
> Harshad, we probably should handle them, since in order to support
> NFS, the nfs server will send the rename or hard link request,
> followed by a commit metadata request, and that commit metadata
> request needs to persist the rename or link.  So for the purposes of
> accelerating NFS, we should handle these commands.
> 
> If we don't handle these commands, we will need to declare the inode
> as fast commit ineligible, so that we force a full journal commit when
> the commit metadata request is received.

As a simplifying assumption, you could limit the case of rename/link
within a single directory?  That handles the common case of "create
temp file, write contents there, sync, rename over original file"
used by most editors, rsync, etc.  The case of cross-directory rename
is much less common in my experience, so it is less important to
optimize that case (if this makes it easier to add to fast commits).

Cheers, Andreas






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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-31 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-01  7:40 [PATCH v3 00/13] ext4: add fast commit support Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] ext4: add handling for extended mount options Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16  2:14   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-21 20:41     ` harshad shirwadkar
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] jbd2: fast commit setup and enable Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 13:03   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] jbd2: fast-commit commit path changes Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 16:38   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] jbd2: fast-commit commit path new APIs Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 17:20   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] jbd2: fast-commit recovery path changes Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 17:30   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-22  0:51     ` harshad shirwadkar
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] ext4: add fields that are needed to track changed files Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 18:26   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] ext4: track changed files for fast commit Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 20:26   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] ext4: fast-commit commit range tracking Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 21:36   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-30  5:12     ` harshad shirwadkar
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] ext4: fast-commit commit path changes Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-16 22:45   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
     [not found]     ` <CAAJeciXQiE022GqcsTr35jSqjA6eH+zBS2KNvDPj5PovButdYA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-23 12:44       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] ext4: fast-commit recovery " Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-18  2:07   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-01  7:41 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] ext4: add support for asynchronous fast commits Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-25  6:28   ` Xiaoguang Wang
2019-10-01  7:41 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] docs: Add fast commit documentation Harshad Shirwadkar
2019-10-18  1:56   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-18  4:51     ` Andreas Dilger
2019-10-18 13:28       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-31 18:53         ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2019-10-31  5:34     ` harshad shirwadkar
2019-10-31  6:41       ` harshad shirwadkar
2019-10-04 19:12 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] ext4: add fast commit support Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-04 20:11   ` harshad shirwadkar

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