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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 04/23] page-writeback: Convert write_cache_pages() to use filemap_get_folios_tag()
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:36:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221104033659.GA2703033@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2R8rRr0ZdrlT32m@magnolia>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 07:45:01PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 11:32:35AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 03:28:05PM -0700, Vishal Moola wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 08:01:52AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 03:01:19PM -0700, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote:
> > > > > -			BUG_ON(PageWriteback(page));
> > > > > -			if (!clear_page_dirty_for_io(page))
> > > > > +			BUG_ON(folio_test_writeback(folio));
> > > > > +			if (!folio_clear_dirty_for_io(folio))
> > > > >  				goto continue_unlock;
> > > > >  
> > > > >  			trace_wbc_writepage(wbc, inode_to_bdi(mapping->host));
> > > > > -			error = (*writepage)(page, wbc, data);
> > > > > +			error = writepage(&folio->page, wbc, data);
> > > > 
> > > > Yet, IIUC, this treats all folios as if they are single page folios.
> > > > i.e. it passes the head page of a multi-page folio to a callback
> > > > that will treat it as a single PAGE_SIZE page, because that's all
> > > > the writepage callbacks are currently expected to be passed...
> > > > 
> > > > So won't this break writeback of dirty multipage folios?
> > > 
> > > Yes, it appears it would. But it wouldn't because its already 'broken'.
> > 
> > It is? Then why isn't XFS broken on existing kernels? Oh, we don't
> > know because it hasn't been tested?
> > 
> > Seriously - if this really is broken, and this patchset further
> > propagating the brokeness, then somebody needs to explain to me why
> > this is not corrupting data in XFS.
> 
> It looks like iomap_do_writepage finds the folio size correctly
> 
> 	end_pos = folio_pos(folio) + folio_size(folio);
> 
> and iomap_writpage_map will map out the correct number of blocks
> 
> 	unsigned nblocks = i_blocks_per_folio(inode, folio);
> 
> 	for (i = 0; i < nblocks && pos < end_pos; i++, pos += len) {
> 
> right?

Yup, that's how I read it, too.

But my recent experience with folios involved being repeatedly
burnt by edge case corruptions due to multipage folios showing up
when and where I least expected them.

Hence doing a 1:1 conversion of page based code to folio based code
and just assuming large folios will work without any testing seems
akin to playing russian roulette with loose cannons that have been
doused with napalm and then set on fire by an air-dropped barrel
bomb...

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com


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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-01 22:01 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/23] Convert to filemap_get_folios_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 01/23] pagemap: Add filemap_grab_folio() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 02/23] filemap: Added filemap_get_folios_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 03/23] filemap: Convert __filemap_fdatawait_range() to use filemap_get_folios_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 04/23] page-writeback: Convert write_cache_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-10-18 21:01   ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-03 22:28     ` Vishal Moola
2022-11-04  0:32       ` Dave Chinner
2022-11-04  2:45         ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-11-04  3:36           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2022-11-04 20:06         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-04 15:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 05/23] afs: Convert afs_writepages_region() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 06/23] btrfs: Convert btree_write_cache_pages() to use filemap_get_folio_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-02 12:28   ` David Sterba
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 07/23] btrfs: Convert extent_write_cache_pages() to use filemap_get_folios_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-02 12:29   ` David Sterba
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 08/23] ceph: Convert ceph_writepages_start() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 09/23] cifs: Convert wdata_alloc_and_fillpages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 10/23] ext4: Convert mpage_prepare_extent_to_map() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 11/23] f2fs: Convert f2fs_fsync_node_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 12/23] f2fs: Convert f2fs_flush_inline_data() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 13/23] f2fs: Convert f2fs_sync_node_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 14/23] f2fs: Convert f2fs_write_cache_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-02 19:57   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-02 21:39   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 15/23] f2fs: Convert last_fsync_dnode() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 16/23] f2fs: Convert f2fs_sync_meta_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 17/23] gfs2: Convert gfs2_write_cache_jdata() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 18/23] nilfs2: Convert nilfs_lookup_dirty_data_buffers() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-03 17:38   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 19/23] nilfs2: Convert nilfs_lookup_dirty_node_buffers() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-03 17:37   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 20/23] nilfs2: Convert nilfs_btree_lookup_dirty_buffers() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-03 17:37   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 21/23] nilfs2: Convert nilfs_copy_dirty_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-03 17:37   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 22/23] nilfs2: Convert nilfs_clear_dirty_pages() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-09-03 17:38   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-09-01 22:01 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 23/23] filemap: Remove find_get_pages_range_tag() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2022-10-14 13:59 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 05/23] afs: Convert afs_writepages_region() to use filemap_get_folios_tag() David Howells
2022-10-18 21:45 ` [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/23] Convert to filemap_get_folios_tag() Dave Chinner
2022-11-03 21:59   ` Vishal Moola

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