From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180BC43381 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6891364F5C for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235292AbhBBPYp (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:24:45 -0500 Received: from vps.thesusis.net ([34.202.238.73]:60524 "EHLO vps.thesusis.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235161AbhBBPQt (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:16:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vps.thesusis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE99243CA; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from vps.thesusis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vps.thesusis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7YuhNWjVJSq; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by vps.thesusis.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A3BDC243C7; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:15:55 -0500 (EST) References: <20200916205434.GA10389@duo.ucw.cz> <87czyf5jjp.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> <87k0s4ai33.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 26.3 From: Phillip Susi To: Daniel Vetter Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Linus Torvalds , Pavel Machek , Randy Dunlap , LKML , "linux-doc\@vger.kernel.org" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , dri-devel , Linux Fbdev development list Subject: Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 10:13:14 -0500 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87wnvqts9g.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org Daniel Vetter writes: > Just a quick comment on this: Since most framebuffers are write-combining, > and reads from that tend to be ~3 orders of magnitude slower than writes > (at least on the pile of machines I looked at here, there's big > differences, and some special streaming cpu instructions to make the > reading side not so slow). > > So scrolling by copying tends to be significantly slower than just > redrawing everything. I know this was the case years ago with AGP as iirc, it doubled ( 4x, 8x ) the PCI clock rate but only for writes wasn't it? I thought this was no longer an issue with PCIe, but if it is, then I guess I'll go ahead with cleaning up the dead code and having it re-render with the larger text buffer.