Re: [EXT] Re: mwifiex 1.0 (16.68.10.p159) - PCIEUSB-8997 firmware is buggy

["Gérald Kerma" <gandalf@gk2.net>]

Héllo James,

So bad to hear from no source possible !
About binaries, I cannot get the latest published one from NXP.
The support answer me I need a NDA.
The support then refuse my proposal of NDA !
I may understand proprietary license, but as a user, I cannot get 
nothing at all !

Regarding the issue, you can see the full details of my tests, and I 
just edit to add a brief summary at the first comment of the following 
issue:
https://github.com/NXP/mwifiex-firmware/issues/1

Please, look at it.
It is full detailed.
If anything missing, please, ask what you need.

Regards,
Gérald Kerma
CyberMind.FR

Le 28/01/2022 à 01:58, James Cao a écrit :
> Hi Gérald, Pali,
>
> For NXP Wi-Fi/BT FW, we only have binary release, which is under 
> proprietary license.
>
> Regarding the issue, which kind of adapter (PCIe-USB or PCIe-UART) did 
> you use? Suppose PCIe-USB/PCIe-UART FW may not work on 
> PCIe-UART/PCIe-USB board. What's the failure symptom?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gérald Kerma <gandalf@gk2.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 6:50 AM
> *To:* Pali Rohár <pali@kernel.org>; James Cao <james.cao@nxp.com>
> *Cc:* Prashanth Ranganathan <prashanthkrishnan.ranganathan@nxp.com>; 
> Sharvari Harisangam <sharvari.harisangam@nxp.com>; Rakesh Parmar 
> <rakesh.parmar@nxp.com>; Cathy Luo <xiaohua.luo@nxp.com>; Linux 
> Firmware <linux-firmware@kernel.org>; Linux Wireless 
> <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>; Josh Boyer <jwboyer@kernel.org>
> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: mwifiex 1.0 (16.68.10.p159) - PCIEUSB-8997 
> firmware is buggy
> Caution: EXT Email
>
> Héllo James,
>
> As Pali wrote, if fimrware requires signing NDA, I can propose my own
> collaboration to NXP !
>
> I am still okay to help, in anyway, with testing or more...
> Please, feel free to contact me.
>
> Gérald Kerma
> CyberMind.FR
> gandalf(at)gk2(dot)net
> 00.33.651.27.66.88
>
> PS: I add my answer which was lost for some of the CC... (sorry)...
>
>
> Le 27/01/2022 à 13:15, Pali Rohár a écrit :
> > Hello James!
> >
> > Thank you for reply, but this is something which we did not want to 
> hear :-(
> >
> > There is an issue in the latest pcieuart8997_combo_v4.bin firmware file
> > which NXP sent to linux-firmware repository and it is really needed to
> > fix this issue. It was sent by NXP, so it is expected that NXP do it.
> > And because it is binary-only file, people outside of NXP cannot do it.
> >
> > Would you be able to look at this firmware issue as the last thing?
> >
> > Or as Gérald wrote, could NXP provide source code of that firmware? So
> > people outside of NXP could look at it? If firmware requires signing NDA
> > (either individually or via company), then some professional skilled
> > kernel developers can do it.
> Le 27/01/2022 à 02:13, Gérald Kerma a écrit :
>  > Héllo James,
>  >
>  > Was it only ever supported ?
>  >
>  > May be NXP can free and share the firmware source to the community,
> and let anyone who care try to debug it ?
>  >
>  > As far as my tests shown, the mwifiex driver never has work
> correctly, and none version is sufficiently stable to be state as working.
>  >
>  > Please, NXP, take cares of your end clients !
>  > Be simple, be smart, be respectuous, give us the source…
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance,
>  > Gérald Kerma
>  >
>  > [%]<\@~{
> > On Wednesday 26 January 2022 23:28:48 James Cao wrote:
> >> Hi Pali,
> >>
> >> NXP doesn't have a plan to support mwifiex driver anymore. How 
> should we handle this kind of retired project in upstream?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> James
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Pali Rohár <pali@kernel.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:30 AM
> >> To: Prashanth Ranganathan <prashanthkrishnan.ranganathan@nxp.com>
> >> Cc: Sharvari Harisangam <sharvari.harisangam@nxp.com>; Rakesh 
> Parmar <rakesh.parmar@nxp.com>; Cathy Luo <xiaohua.luo@nxp.com>; James 
> Cao <james.cao@nxp.com>; Linux Firmware <linux-firmware@kernel.org>; 
> Linux Wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>; Gérald Kerma 
> <gandalf@gk2.net>; Ganapathi Bhat <ganapathi017@gmail.com>; Josh Boyer 
> <jwboyer@kernel.org>
> >> Subject: [EXT] Re: mwifiex 1.0 (16.68.10.p159) - PCIEUSB-8997 
> firmware is buggy
> >>
> >> Caution: EXT Email
> >>
> >> Hello Prashanth!
> >>
> >> Thank you for reply. Did you have a time to check this issue?
> >>
> >> Gérald did a great testing which shows that version W16.68.1.p195 and
> >> higher of pcieuart8997_combo_v4.bin firmware does not work.
> >>
> >> On Friday 14 January 2022 17:11:18 Prashanth Ranganathan wrote:
> >>> Hi Pali,
> >>> Please allow me to check this and respond ASAP.
> >>> Best,
> >>> Prashanth
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Pali Rohár <pali@kernel.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:00 AM
> >>> To: Sharvari Harisangam <sharvari.harisangam@nxp.com>; Rakesh 
> Parmar <rakesh.parmar@nxp.com>; Cathy Luo <xiaohua.luo@nxp.com>; 
> Prashanth Ranganathan <prashanthkrishnan.ranganathan@nxp.com>; James 
> Cao <james.cao@nxp.com>
> >>> Cc: Linux Firmware <linux-firmware@kernel.org>; Linux Wireless 
> <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>; Gérald Kerma <gandalf@gk2.net>; 
> Ganapathi Bhat <ganapathi017@gmail.com>; Josh Boyer <jwboyer@kernel.org>
> >>> Subject: [EXT] Re: mwifiex 1.0 (16.68.10.p159) - PCIEUSB-8997 
> firmware is buggy
> >>>
> >>> Caution: EXT Email
> >>>
> >>> NXP people: Sharvari, Rakesh, Cathy, Zheng: could you please look at
> >>> this issue? It is really serous!
> >>>
> >>> On Monday 27 September 2021 09:47:23 Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 6:43 AM Pali Rohár <pali@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello Josh, Sharvari and other from NXP!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Saturday 25 September 2021 19:23:48 Gérald Kerma wrote:
> >>>>>> Correcting old marvell address to new nxp...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 25/09/2021 à 19:19, Gérald Kerma a écrit :
> >>>>>>> Héllo All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I made some few tests on EspressoBin-Ultra from 
> GlobalScaleTechnologies,
> >>>>>>> because of problem with the WiFi.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have done some quick tests on all the firmware of 
> PCIEUSB-8997 using
> >>>>>>> the pcieuart8997_combo_v4.bin on OpenWrt 21.02.x
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is a summary of the tests :
> >>>>>>> - W16.68.10.p159 = KO
> >>>>>>> - W16.68.1.p195 = KO
> >>>>>>> - V16.68.1.p145 = OK
> >>>>>>> - 16.68.1.p140 = OK
> >>>>>>> - 16.68.1.p133 = OK
> >>>>>>> - 16.68.1.p97 = OK
> >>>>>>> - 16.68.1.p70 = KO
> >>>>>  From this user test result can be seen that last two versions of
> >>>>> pcieusb8997_combo_v4.bin firmware file for 8997 wifi+bt card with
> >>>>> official mainline linux kernel driver mwifiex were not properly 
> tested
> >>>>> internally in NXP and are causing serious issues which make 8997 
> card
> >>>>> basically unusable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sharvari and other NXP developers: Do you have some internal 
> testing of
> >>>>> this pcieusb8997_combo_v4.bin firmware for PCIe+USB variant of 8997
> >>>>> wifi chips? Or are you aware of this issue and do you have in 
> NXP some
> >>>>> workaround for it (e.g. at driver level)? Could you please look 
> at this
> >>>>> serious issue and try to debug firmware and release a new 
> version, as
> >>>>> this is obvious fatal error in firmware itself?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh, how you in linux-firmware repository handle such, I must say,
> >>>>> "fatal issues"? Wait for vendor fixes or revert problematic 
> commits? Or
> >>>>> something else?
> >>>> We can revert if we need to, but I think it's not quite that simple.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Because when users starts upgrading linux-firmware packages in their
> >>>>> downstream distributions then basically wifi cards on this 8997 
> chips
> >>>>> with official mwifiex driver stops working.
> >>>> The first broken version was committed in Feb of 2019.  That's
> >>>> approaching 3 years ago.  Given that this is binary firmware, I have
> >>>> no idea what else may or may not be included in the updates in the
> >>>> meantime.
> >>>>
> >>>> josh
> >>> Josh, as Gérald wrote, current binary in linux-firmware repository is
> >>> unusable. And there is no reply from NXP for 3 months.
> >>>
> >>> You are right that nobody knows what is in firmware binary, but 
> working
> >>> binary is at least usable than non-working binary.
> >>>
> >>> So I would really suggest to start reverting non-working firmware 
> files
> >>> if NXP does not respond in few days.
> >>>
> >>> Gérald, what is your opinion? Do you see other way how to make 
> mainline
> >>> linux driver work (again)?
> >>>
> >>>>>>> REF (and all details of tests) :
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Broken firmware :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Version |W16.68.1.p195| of |pcieusb8997_combo_v4.bin| was 
> included into
> >>>>>>> linux-firmware repository by this pull request:
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And latest version |W16.68.10.p159| of 
> |pcieusb8997_combo_v4.bin| by
> >>>>>>> this pull request:
> >>>>>>> 
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Olders looks to works better.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In quick tests, they allow more than 1 clients at a time !
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am still testing the V16.68.1.p145 and report the results 
> after some
> >>>>>>> longer use...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hopes it will help...
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>> Gérald Kerma
> >>>>>>> gandalf(at)gk2(dot)net
>