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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Stef Bon <stefbon@gmail.com>
Cc: Stef Bon <stef@bononline.nl>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rlove@rlove.org,
	eparis@parisplace.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFS/inotify: send netlink messages when an inotify watch has been set or removed.
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:05:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120107190536.GP23916@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANXojcyGRN9bQb5Asx3tLPp4wJ68QdrStTW6iCbTKiV_OOHazw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:59:10PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote:

> Yes you've got a point here. Absolutly, the moving of a subtree is not
> noticed by the fuse fs, and therefore cannot be taken into account.
> And yes, I agree, that the only way to deal with that is "if you do
> this with the fuse fs, strange things can happen type of warning". I'm
> happy we agree on something!

There are almost certainly some things we agree on, but that's not
the *only* way to deal with that.  "Don't use inotify" is another.

And it's not just moving a subtree.  mount --bind followed by umount
of the original is another obvious example.  So's having per-user
namespaces, etc.

Moreover, exact same example of a race would still apply without
mount being involved - have user pass /proc/6969/fd/42/bar/barf to
inotify_add_watch() and replace mount --move with dup2().

Passing the pathname is *hopeless* here.  And IMNSHO so's relying on
inotify in general - it's not a general-purpose API and any program
relying on it being usable on an arbitrary part of tree is buggy.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-07 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-07 13:36 [PATCH] VFS/inotify: send netlink messages when an inotify watch has been set or removed Stef Bon
2012-01-07 14:38 ` Al Viro
2012-01-07 15:03   ` Stef Bon
2012-01-07 15:42     ` Al Viro
2012-01-07 15:57     ` Al Viro
2012-01-07 16:59       ` Stef Bon
2012-01-07 19:05         ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-01-07 21:13           ` Stef Bon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-05 20:56 Stef Bon
2012-01-06 14:13 ` Stef Bon

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