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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Edward Shishkin <edward@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Stop clearing uptodate flag on write IO error
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:36:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120124003657.GJ15102@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120123214709.GB17974@thunk.org>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 04:47:09PM -0500, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> > The thing is, transient write errors tend to be isolated and go away
> > when a retry occurs (think of IO timeouts when multipath failover
> > occurs). When non-isolated IO or unrecoverable problems occur (e.g.
> > no paths left to fail over onto), critical other metadata reads and
> > writes will fail and shut down the filesystem, thereby terminating
> > the "try forever" background writeback loop those delayed write
> > buffers may be in. So the truth is that "trying forever" on write
> > errors can handle a whole class of write IO errors very
> > effectively....
> 
> So how does XFS decide whether a write should fail and shutdown the
> file system, or just "try forever"?

The IO dispatcher decides that. If the dispatcher has handed the IO
off to the delayed write queue, then failed writes will be tried
again. If the caller is catching the IO completion (e.g. sync
writes) or attaching a completion callback (journal IO), then the
completion context will handle the error appropriately. Journal IO
errors tend to shutdown the filesystem on the first error, other
contexts may handle the error, retry or shutdown the filesystem
depending on their current state when the error occurs.

Reads are even more complex, because ithe dispatch context can be
within a transaction and the correct error handling is then
dependent on the current state of the transaction....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-24  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-05 14:40 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Stop clearing uptodate flag on write IO error Jan Kara
2012-01-05 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: Convert checks for write IO errors from !buffer_uptodate to buffer_write_io_error Jan Kara
2012-01-05 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs: Do not clear uptodate flag on write IO error Jan Kara
2012-01-05 14:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] ext2: Replace tests of write IO errors using buffer_uptodate Jan Kara
2012-01-05 22:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Stop clearing uptodate flag on write IO error Andrew Morton
2012-01-15  2:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-16 16:01   ` Jan Kara
2012-01-16 18:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-16 19:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-17  0:36       ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-17  0:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-17 10:46           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-23  3:04           ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-23 21:47             ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-23 23:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-24  6:12                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-24  7:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-24 12:13                     ` Jan Kara
2012-01-24  0:36               ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2012-01-26 12:17                 ` Ric Wheeler
2012-01-26 20:51                   ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26 20:58                     ` Ric Wheeler

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