From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeremy Allison Subject: Re: xfs: does mkfs.xfs require fancy switches to get decent performance? (was Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync?) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 13:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: <20150513200234.GB10059@samba2> References: <5552A844.6070806@phunq.net> <1804876.U7q4ey1Nv3@merkaba> <5553A805.5090601@phunq.net> Reply-To: Jeremy Allison Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: Martin Steigerwald , David Lang , Theodore Ts'o , Howard Chu , Dave Chinner , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith , Pavel Machek , tux3@tux3.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, OGAWA Hirofumi To: Daniel Phillips Return-path: Received: from fn.samba.org ([216.83.154.106]:59750 "EHLO mail.samba.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752871AbbEMUJo (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2015 16:09:44 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5553A805.5090601@phunq.net> Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:37:41PM -0700, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On 05/13/2015 12:09 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >=20 > > "Assume good faith" can help here. No amount of accusing people of = bad=20 > > intention will change them. The only thing you have the power to ch= ange is=20 > > your approach. You absolutely and ultimately do not have the power = to change=20 > > other people. You can=B4t force Tux3 in by sheer willpower or attac= king=20 > > people. > >=20 > > On any account for anyone discussing here: I believe that any perso= nal=20 > > attacks, counter-attacks or "you are wrong" kind of speech will not= help to=20 > > move this discussion out of the circling it seems to be in at the m= oment. >=20 > Thanks for the sane commentary. I have the power to change my behavio= r. > But if nobody else changes their behavior, the process remains just a= s > unpleasant for us as it ever was (not just me!). Obviously, this is > not the first time I have been through this, and it has never been > pleasant. After a while, contributors just get tired of the grind and > move on to something more fun. I know I did, and I am far from the > only one. Daniel, please listen to Martin. He speaks a fundamental truth here. As you know, I am also interested in Tux3, and would love to see it as a filesystem option for NAS servers using Samba. But please think about the way you're interacting with people on the list, and whether that makes this outcome more or less likely. Cheers, Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel= " in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html