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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	vgoyal@redhat.com, lizefan@huawei.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mhocko@suse.cz, clm@fb.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, david@fromorbit.com, gthelen@google.com,
	khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH 44/51] writeback: implement bdi_wait_for_completion()
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:02:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150703170210.GD5273@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150703123642.GL23329@quack.suse.cz>

Hello,

On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 02:36:42PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Let me phrase my objection this differently: Instead of implementing custom
> synchronization mechanism, you could as well do:
> 
> int count_submitted;	/* Number of submitted works we want to wait for */
> struct completion done;
> ...
> submit works with 'done' as completion.
> ...
> while (count_submitted--)
> 	wait_for_completion(&done);
> 
> And we could also easily optimize that loop and put it in
> kernel/sched/completion.c. The less synchronization mechanisms we have the
> better I'd think...

And what I'm trying to say is that we most likely don't want to build
it around completions.  We really don't want to roll "event count" and
"wakeup count" into the same mechanism.  There's nothing completion
provides that such event counting mechanism needs or wants.  It isn't
that attractive from the completion side either.  The main reason we
have completions is for stupid simple synchronizations and we wanna
keep it simple.

I do agree that we might want a generic "event count" mechanism but at
the same time combining a counter and wait_event is usually pretty
trivial.  Maybe atomic_t + waitqueue is a useful enough abstraction
but then we would eventually end up having to deal with all the
different types of waits and timeouts.  We might end up with a lot of
thin wrappers which really don't do much of anything.

If you can think of a good way to abstract this, please go head.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-22 21:13 [PATCHSET 1/3 v4 block/for-4.2/core] writeback: cgroup writeback support Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 01/51] page_writeback: revive cancel_dirty_page() in a restricted form Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 02/51] memcg: add per cgroup dirty page accounting Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 03/51] blkcg: move block/blk-cgroup.h to include/linux/blk-cgroup.h Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 04/51] update !CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP dummies in include/linux/blk-cgroup.h Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 05/51] blkcg: always create the blkcg_gq for the root blkcg Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 06/51] memcg: add mem_cgroup_root_css Tejun Heo
2015-06-17 14:56   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20150617145642.GI25056-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-17 18:25       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150617182500.GI22637-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 11:12           ` Michal Hocko
2015-06-18 17:49             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20150618174930.GA12934-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-19  9:18                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20150619091848.GE4913-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-19 15:17                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 07/51] blkcg: add blkcg_root_css Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 08/51] cgroup, block: implement task_get_css() and use it in bio_associate_current() Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 09/51] blkcg: implement task_get_blkcg_css() Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 10/51] blkcg: implement bio_associate_blkcg() Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 11/51] memcg: implement mem_cgroup_css_from_page() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-12-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 23:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-24 21:24       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150524212440.GD7099-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-27 12:58           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-05-27 16:13     ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2015-05-27 17:09       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <20150527170955.GA25324-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-27 17:48           ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-27 17:57     ` [PATCH v3 " Tejun Heo
2015-05-28  0:00   ` [PATCH v4 " Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 12/51] writeback: move backing_dev_info->state into bdi_writeback Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 13/51] writeback: move backing_dev_info->bdi_stat[] " Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 14/51] writeback: move bandwidth related fields from backing_dev_info " Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 15/51] writeback: s/bdi/wb/ in mm/page-writeback.c Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 16/51] writeback: move backing_dev_info->wb_lock and ->worklist into bdi_writeback Tejun Heo
2015-06-07  0:49   ` Sasha Levin
2015-06-08  5:57     ` [PATCH block/for-4.2-writeback] v9fs: fix error handling in v9fs_session_init() Tejun Heo
2015-06-08 15:10       ` Jens Axboe
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 17/51] writeback: reorganize mm/backing-dev.c Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 18/51] writeback: separate out include/linux/backing-dev-defs.h Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 19/51] bdi: make inode_to_bdi() inline Tejun Heo
2015-06-30  6:47   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 20/51] writeback: add @gfp to wb_init() Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 21/51] bdi: separate out congested state into a separate struct Tejun Heo
2015-06-30  9:21   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 22/51] writeback: add {CONFIG|BDI_CAP|FS}_CGROUP_WRITEBACK Tejun Heo
2015-06-30  9:37   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  1:10     ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-03 10:49       ` Jan Kara
2015-07-03 17:14         ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 23/51] writeback: make backing_dev_info host cgroup-specific bdi_writebacks Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 10:14   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 24/51] writeback, blkcg: associate each blkcg_gq with the corresponding bdi_writeback_congested Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-25-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30  9:08     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 25/51] writeback: attribute stats to the matching per-cgroup bdi_writeback Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-26-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 14:17     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 26/51] writeback: let balance_dirty_pages() work on the matching cgroup bdi_writeback Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 14:31   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  1:26     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 27/51] writeback: make congestion functions per bdi_writeback Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 14:50   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 28/51] writeback, blkcg: restructure blk_{set|clear}_queue_congested() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-29-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 15:02     ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  1:38       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150702013815.GE26440-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03 12:16           ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 29/51] writeback, blkcg: propagate non-root blkcg congestion state Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 15:03   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 30/51] writeback: implement and use inode_congested() Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 15:21   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  1:46     ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-03 12:17       ` Jan Kara
     [not found]         ` <20150703121721.GJ23329-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03 17:07           ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-04 15:12         ` [PATCH block/for-4.3] writeback: explain why @inode is allowed to be NULL for inode_congested() Tejun Heo
2015-07-08  8:12           ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 31/51] writeback: implement WB_has_dirty_io wb_state flag Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 15:42   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 32/51] writeback: implement backing_dev_info->tot_write_bandwidth Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-33-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 16:14     ` Jan Kara
2015-06-30 16:42       ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 33/51] writeback: make bdi_has_dirty_io() take multiple bdi_writeback's into account Tejun Heo
2015-06-30 16:48   ` Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20150630164824.GU7252-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02  2:01       ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 34/51] writeback: don't issue wb_writeback_work if clean Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-35-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 16:18     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 35/51] writeback: make bdi->min/max_ratio handling cgroup writeback aware Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-36-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01  7:00     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 36/51] writeback: implement bdi_for_each_wb() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-37-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01  7:27     ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  2:22       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20150702022226.GH26440-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03 12:26           ` Jan Kara
2015-07-03 17:06             ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 37/51] writeback: remove bdi_start_writeback() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-38-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01  7:30     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 38/51] writeback: make laptop_mode_timer_fn() handle multiple bdi_writeback's Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-39-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01  7:32     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 39/51] writeback: make writeback_in_progress() take bdi_writeback instead of backing_dev_info Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-40-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01  7:47     ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  2:28       ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 40/51] writeback: make bdi_start_background_writeback() " Tejun Heo
2015-07-01  7:50   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  2:29     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20150701075009.GA7252-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 19:36       ` [PATCH block/for-4.3] writeback: update writeback tracepoints to report cgroup Tejun Heo
2015-07-08  8:17         ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 41/51] writeback: make wakeup_flusher_threads() handle multiple bdi_writeback's Tejun Heo
2015-07-01  8:15   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  2:37     ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-03 13:02       ` Jan Kara
     [not found]         ` <20150703130213.GM23329-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03 16:33           ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 42/51] writeback: make wakeup_dirtytime_writeback() " Tejun Heo
2015-07-01  8:20   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 43/51] writeback: add wb_writeback_work->auto_free Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 44/51] writeback: implement bdi_wait_for_completion() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-45-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01 16:04     ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  3:06       ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-03 12:36         ` Jan Kara
2015-07-03 17:02           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-07-01 16:09     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]       ` <20150701160918.GH7252-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02  3:01         ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:13 ` [PATCH 45/51] writeback: implement wb_wait_for_single_work() Tejun Heo
2015-07-01 19:07   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  3:07     ` Tejun Heo
2015-07-03 22:12     ` [PATCH block/for-4.3] writeback: remove wb_writeback_work->single_wait/done Tejun Heo
2015-07-08  8:24       ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 46/51] writeback: restructure try_writeback_inodes_sb[_nr]() Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 47/51] writeback: make writeback initiation functions handle multiple bdi_writeback's Tejun Heo
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 48/51] writeback: dirty inodes against their matching cgroup bdi_writeback's Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1432329245-5844-49-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01 19:16     ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 49/51] buffer, writeback: make __block_write_full_page() honor cgroup writeback Tejun Heo
2015-07-01 19:21   ` Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20150701192102.GK7252-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01 19:28       ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 50/51] mpage: make __mpage_writepage() " Tejun Heo
2015-07-01 19:26   ` Jan Kara
2015-05-22 21:14 ` [PATCH 51/51] ext2: enable cgroup writeback support Tejun Heo
2015-07-01 19:29   ` Jan Kara
2015-07-02  3:08     ` Tejun Heo

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