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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: CAI Qian <caiqian@redhat.com>
Cc: Sage Weil <sage@redhat.com>, Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	tj <tj@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bisected] Re: local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 07:49:17 +1100
Message-ID: <20161013204917.GQ23194@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <895314622.769515.1476375930648.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:25:30PM -0400, CAI Qian wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:59:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [bisected] Re: local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked)
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 03:50:36PM -0400, CAI Qian wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:57:14 PM
> > > > 
> > > > > http://people.redhat.com/qcai/tmp/dmesg
> > > > 
> > > > It's a page lock order bug in the XFS seek hole/data implementation.
> > > So reverted this commit against the latest mainline allows trinity run
> > > hours. Otherwise, it always hang at fdatasync() within 30 minutes.
> > > 
> > > fc0561cefc04e7803c0f6501ca4f310a502f65b8
> > > xfs: optimise away log forces on timestamp updates for fdatasync
> > 
> > Has nothing at all to do with the hang.
> > 
> > > PS: tested against the vfs tree's #work.splice_read with this commit
> > > reverted is now hanging at sync() instead which won't be  reproduced
> > > against the mainline so far.
> > > http://people.redhat.com/qcai/tmp/dmesg-sync
> > 
> > It is the same page lock vs seek hole/data issue.
> FYI, CVE-2016-8660 was assigned for it.

Why? This isn't a security issue - CVEs cost time and effort for
everyone to track and follow and raising them for issues like this
does not help anyone fix the actual problem.  It doesn't help us
track it, analyse it, communicate with the bug reporter, test it or
get the fix committed.  It's meaningless to the developers fixing
the code, it's meaningless to users, and it's meaningless to most
distros that are supporting XFS because the distro maintainers don't
watch the CVE lists for XFS bugs they need to backport and fix.

All this does is artificially inflate the supposed importance of the
bug. CVEs are for security or severe issues. This is neither serious
or a security issue - please have the common courtesy to ask the
people with the knowledge to make such a determination (i.e. the
maintainers) before you waste the time of a /large number/ of people
by raising a useless CVE...

Yes, you found a bug. No, it's not a security bug. No, you should
not abusing of the CVE process to apply pressure to get it fixed.
Please don't do this again.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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     [not found]                 ` <20160914133925.2fba4629@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2016-09-18  5:33                   ` xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Al Viro
2016-09-19  3:08                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-19  6:11                       ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  7:26                         ` Nicholas Piggin
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFznQaOWoSMNphgGJJWZ=8-odrc0DAUMzfGPQe+_N4UgNA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20160914042559.GC2356@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                     ` <20160917082007.GA6489@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                       ` <20160917190023.GA8039@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
2016-09-18 19:31                         ` skb_splice_bits() and large chunks in pipe (was " Al Viro
2016-09-18 20:12                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-18 22:31                             ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  0:18                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 19:00                         ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:01                           ` [PATCH 01/11] fix memory leaks in tracing_buffers_splice_read() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                           ` [PATCH 02/11] splice_to_pipe(): don't open-code wakeup_pipe_readers() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:02                           ` [PATCH 03/11] splice: switch get_iovec_page_array() to iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                           ` [PATCH 04/11] splice: lift pipe_lock out of splice_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:45                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-23 20:10                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-23 20:36                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  3:59                                   ` Al Viro
2016-09-24 17:29                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-27 15:38                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-09-27 15:53                                       ` Chuck Lever
2016-09-24  3:59                                   ` [PATCH 04/12] " Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:35                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-27  4:14                                       ` Al Viro
2016-12-17 19:54                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 19:28                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 19:57                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-18 20:12                                         ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 20:30                                           ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:10                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:18                                               ` Al Viro
2016-12-18 22:22                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-18 22:49                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 18:56                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-21 19:12                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-24  4:00                                   ` [PATCH 06/12] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-26 13:49                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-24  4:01                                   ` [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-29 20:53                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-29 22:50                                       ` Al Viro
2016-09-30  7:30                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-10-03  3:34                                           ` [RFC] O_DIRECT vs EFAULT (was Re: [PATCH 10/12] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed) Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:07                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-03 18:54                                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:01                                   ` [PATCH 11/12] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-24  4:02                                   ` [PATCH 12/12] switch default_file_splice_read() to use of pipe-backed iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:03                           ` [PATCH 05/11] skb_splice_bits(): get rid of callback Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                           ` [PATCH 06/11] new helper: add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:04                           ` [PATCH 07/11] fuse_dev_splice_read(): switch to add_to_pipe() Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:06                           ` [PATCH 08/11] cifs: don't use memcpy() to copy struct iov_iter Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:08                           ` [PATCH 09/11] fuse_ioctl_copy_user(): don't open-code copy_page_{to,from}_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-26  9:31                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-09-23 19:09                           ` [PATCH 10/11] new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed Al Viro
2016-09-23 19:10                           ` [PATCH 11/11] switch generic_file_splice_read() to use of ->read_iter() Al Viro
2016-09-30 13:32                           ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked CAI Qian
2016-09-30 17:42                             ` CAI Qian
2016-09-30 18:33                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03  1:37                                 ` Al Viro
2016-10-03 17:49                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 17:39                                     ` local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked) CAI Qian
2016-10-04 21:42                                       ` tj
2016-10-05 14:09                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 15:30                                           ` tj
2016-10-05 15:54                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 18:57                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 20:05                                                 ` Al Viro
2016-10-06 12:20                                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 12:25                                                     ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 16:11                                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-06 17:00                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-06 18:12                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07  9:57                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-07 15:25                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07  7:08                                                       ` Jan Kara
2016-10-07 14:43                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 15:27                                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-07 18:56                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:54                                                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-10 14:10                                                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 20:14                                                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-10 21:57                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-12 19:50                                                                     ` [bisected] " CAI Qian
2016-10-12 20:59                                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-13 16:25                                                                         ` CAI Qian
2016-10-13 20:49                                                                           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-10-13 20:56                                                                             ` CAI Qian
2016-10-09 21:51                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-21 15:38                                                         ` [4.9-rc1+] overlayfs lockdep CAI Qian
2016-10-24 12:57                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-10-07  9:27                                                     ` local DoS - systemd hang or timeout (WAS: Re: [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked) Dave Chinner
2016-10-03  1:42                               ` [RFC][CFT] splice_read reworked Al Viro
2016-10-03 14:06                                 ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 15:20                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 21:12                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-10-04 13:57                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:32                                   ` CAI Qian
2016-10-03 20:35                                     ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 13:29                                       ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 14:28                                         ` Al Viro
2016-10-04 16:21                                           ` CAI Qian
2016-10-04 20:12                                             ` Al Viro
2016-10-05 14:30                                               ` CAI Qian
2016-10-05 16:07                                                 ` Al Viro
2016-09-19  0:22 skb_splice_bits() and large chunks in pipe (was Re: xfs_file_splice_read: possible circular locking dependency detected Al Viro
2016-09-20  9:51 ` Herbert Xu

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