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From: bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields)
To: Boaz Harrosh <boazh@netapp.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	coughlan@redhat.com, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Andy Rudof <andy.rudoff@intel.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Bates <stephen@eideticom.com>,
	Amit Golander <Amit.Golander@netapp.com>,
	Sagi Manole <sagim@netapp.com>,
	Shachar Sharon <Shachar.Sharon@netapp.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC ATTEND][RFD] ZUFS - Zero-copy User-mode File System
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 10:49:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180202154952.GA3875@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05004066-1071-4244-3b6c-318b34f3f16b@netapp.com>

On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 08:59:18PM +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> On 01/02/18 20:34, Chuck Lever wrote: <>
> > This work was also presented at the SNIA Persistent Memory Summit
> > last week.  The use case of course is providing a user space
> > platform for the development and deployment of memory-based file
> > systems. The value-add of this kind of file system is ultra-low
> > latency, which is a challenge for the current most popular such
> > framework, FUSE.
> > 
> > To start, I can think of three areas where specific questions might
> > be entertained by LSF/MM attendees:
> > 
> > - Spectre mitigations make this whole "user space filesystem"
> > arrangement even slower, thanks to additional context switches
> > between user space and the kernel.

I think you're referring to the KPTI patches, which address Meltdown,
not Spectre.

> What about a different interface for a "trusted" binary with "Spectre
> mitigation" off.  I know Redhat guys have a project where they want to
> sign and verify by Kernel all systemd /sbin/* binaries. If these
> binaries have such an hardened trust could we make them faster? (ie
> back to regular speed)

I don't think that helps.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-02 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-01 13:51 [LSF/MM TOPIC ATTEND][RFD] ZUFS - Zero-copy User-mode File System Boaz Harrosh
2018-02-01 18:34 ` Chuck Lever
2018-02-01 18:59   ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-02-02  9:36     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-05 13:04       ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-02-05 15:48         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-02-02 15:49     ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2018-02-02 16:09       ` Chuck Lever
2018-02-02 16:13         ` Bruce Fields
2018-02-09 17:47         ` Steve French
2018-02-05 12:53       ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-03-05 12:18     ` Greg KH

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